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Yeah. How dare people want to protect trans rights. The gall.
*human rights
I'm not going to assume your position here, but this really comes off as some "all lives matter" style counter protesting.
It's more like the opposite - it is an argument that the rights of trans people aren't some new exotic social movement that we need to think carefully about. It's that regular human rights that we already mostly agree on should naturally apply to trans people.
I definitely see that angle, hence the not assuming, but "um actually"ing a social progress motto isn't a great look, especially with the existence of "*all lives matter" hanging around.
Also, the whole motto is "Trans Rights are human rights", so that's quite literally already laid out.
Agreed with Deestan. It's about treating all humans, be them straight, lesbian, gay, bi, trans, queer/questioning, asexual, pan, and all elements of the rainbow that aren't covered by the above as equals. We are all part of the human race, Homo sapiens sapiens.
You get how unhelpful this is, right? Like, do you go to abortion rights protests and preach the same bs? Or gay rights marches? You're not helping anyone with this "actually, everyone deserves these rights" garbage. "Everyone" doesn't face the same problems, so just let people advocate for their rights as they see fit instead of trying to kneecap them for the sake of "equality".
I get your perspective, and I think we are both trying to at least meet in the middle with how we are trying to explain our takes. By all means, I truly do think that minority groups should have more support and have the right to be heard and seen than the "societal norm". I guess I was just trying to see both sides and trying to determine a midpoint. The "All Lives Matter" movement easily falls in line with many other conservative spiels, and I'm trying to see the best in people in that what they mean isn't trying to side with the heavier right wing movements. Again, I'm not trying to belittle or minimize the trans rights movement or anything in which minority groups aren't being heard. I guess I just wish we lived in a society where everyone was treated as equal, and any hate groups were quieted to the best of our ability, slowly erasing those archaic viewpoints.
Like I started my first comment with, I'm not assuming that's what they meant with their "correction". I'm just pointing out the poor optics with a comment like that. And as I said to the other user, the whole slogan is "Trans rights are human rights". There's no need to "correct" it - it's already there.
Thank you for the extra layer of clarity. I'm consistently trying to make sure my words aren't being misconstrued, and I'm hoping that's how the other commenter feels, although I'm not going to put words in their mouth. I've faltered many a time in the past, hell even this morning in a discussion with a personal friend. I'm here to hopefully make the world a better place to live in, even if by the smallest choices in words and actions.
We absolutely tried that. The approach failed quickly and spectacularly in the past 15ish years, and even backfired. Frankly, whether you call it shunning, cancel culture, or people exercising their rights of association, it's not very effective in the Information Age.
I've personally pivoted to the much more exhausting, dogged method of dealing with them fairly, and simply taking the time to explain where and how they went wrong. This is very time consuming, but can work sometimes.
You're on the right path with that. Sometimes people with these mindsets just need to be spoken to, and that may (on may not) open their eyes to the ways they may have been inadvertently steeped in, whether that be from upbringing in a hatred filled household / community / etc., or a search for acceptance in those circles. I have someone at my workplace who is an outspoken anti-LGBTQ+, even going as far as plastering their laptop with heavily right wing anecdotes, and wearing very questionable shirts with horrible messages. But I'm here to eventually try and reason with them, and you're absolutely right it'll be an uphill battle, but one worth trying.
I’m assuming they’ve all burnt the books, merchandise, theme parks and dvd’s they’ve already spent money on and had their memory wiped of all (5/6/7?) stories in the Barry Trotter series. I’ve never read nor watched any of it but I’m assuming that whilst the bandwagon was rolling-on everything was tickety-boo until later; when she opened her mouth to give a personal opinion. The thing is: if her legions of fan(atic)s hadn’t elevated her to the pantheon of gods then it’s possible she may not have thought she had enough clout and kudos to wade into a topic massively unrelated to her “day job”. Who knows?