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[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago (5 children)

...switching to Linux might be worthwhile for gamers on the move looking to eke out every last drop of performance from the ROG Ally or Lenovo Legion Go.

So they're talking about the ROG Ally and Lenovo Legion Go not a desktop PC or a laptop. Nice clickbait.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm on a desktop running Pop and I bet my system performs better than an equal Windows system. These handhelds are actual PCs, bud.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They are just PCs though...? It's just a different form factor.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Okay. But it's still a clickbait title. Seeing how they said nothing handheld PCs in the title.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The article is referencing a benchmark that was run on desktop hardware so not clickbait. Likely they mentioned the handhelds in the article for ref link revenue.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Funny how they didn't put in the article. Yet, I'm in the wrong thinking it's about handheld PCs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nope, from the Tom's Hardware source:

ComputerBase's testing was done on an all-AMD test rig, featuring a Ryzen 7 5800X (non-3D) and a Radeon RX 6700 XT.

It's still relevant that this was not running on a Nvidia GPU, IMO, but not about handheld PCs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So you have to going to another article to get the full story. gg notebookcheck.net.

Also can you link the Tom’s Hardware article.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's linked as the source of the article in this link. I would have preferred OP link to it directly, assuming the actual source being in German was a dealbreaker, but it's still linked alongside the TH at the bottom of this one.

I am not sure why you're so adamant about a quote in the article that doesn't say this is about handhelds and getting defensive about a source that is in fact linked in the same article.

For the record, also plainly stated in both articles, the differences in performance are fairly small in all runs, exempting one or two outliers, and seemingly the Windows 1% lows were higher. Despite the Linux fans' overreporting these results, "Proton run good" is not an unexpected result.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

the article that doesn’t say this is about handhelds

If we are talking about the Notebook Check article. The last paragraph is not helping you. Seeing that's the only time they talk about hardware in the article. Just helps the confusion.

getting defensive about a source that is in fact linked in the same article.

All I did is ask for a link.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

No, the last paragraph says that these results (seen on a desktop PC) suggest that if you're on lower powered hardware (like a handheld) you may want to ditch the preinstalled Windows and try a Linux install to get a bit more performance.

Which is very debatable on a couple of counts, including the worse 1% lows, the fact that these desktop GPU results may or may not carry over to low TDP AMD APUs and that there's no guarantee that you'll get support for other custom features like the Legion Go's funky detachable controllers. But that's what it's saying, not that the results are about handheld performance.

As for the other thing, man, you're all over this thread being weirdly hostile, All I'm saying is you don't have to be. This isn't a big deal, the article isn't clickbait and nobody is out to get you. There are actually enough things here that are interesting to debate without trying to make this about some weird journalism standards thing. Some of them are even about how shaky some of the reporting is, if that's your angle. It's just... not for the reasons you're getting all worked up about.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago

They're literally just PCs. They aren't some mysterious thing. They're using the same architectures a laptop or desktop would.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The article talks about those mobile systems, but the actual benchmark on Computerbase tested these on a desktop.

Ryzen 7 5800X

Scythe Mugen 5 cooler

Asus ROG Strix B550-A Gaming

32BG DDR4-3600-RAM (CL18-22-22-44)

Sapphire RX 6700 XT Nitro+

Tested @ 1080p 144Hz, Freesync Off

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

Out of touch comment.

Handheld PCs are PCs.