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I was living in a world where I wasn't aware that it's a thing to steal cables. Thanks. But aren't fiber optic more expensive?
Generally when I hear people discussing fiber the big costs is actually running the cables and terminating and splicing the ends, the actual cable itself is relatively inexpensive from my understanding.
But with regard to stealing cable, you really can't do much with a fiber cable on the secondary market besides using it for fiber, and you also would probably need to re-terminate it that can be very costly. Compared to copper or other type of metal cables that can be sold very easily for scrap metal. That can be melted down and made into something else or just reused as cable.
Probably, but I don't think you can easily melt it down and sell the raw materials like you can with metals... Just a hunch
Fiber optic cables are very much not recyclable, at least with the current recycling technologies.
i mean its glass, could just melt it down
Sure, but the glass core is only 8–9 µm wide, it's a minuscule amount of glass compared to copper cables so it's not really worth it to melt it down.
Most optical fiber is 125um of glass with 250um coating. The coating and the jacketing that make up the cable (mostly non-recyclable plastic) are the real problem.
I don't know of any fiber that the core is 125 microns. Can you link to one? Neither Single Mode nor Multi Mode fiber is that large.
Sure: https://www.prysmiangroup.com/sites/default/files/business_markets/markets/downloads/datasheets/SMF---Single-Mode-Optical-Fiber-SSMF.pdf
You are right the core of most optical fibers is either 8-9um for singlemode, or 62.5 or 50um for multimode. The cladding, which is also made of glass, surrounds the core and this is almost always 125um. Often there is more than one layer that makes up the cladding glass to help reduce the bend radius before you start to attenuate your signal. You need both the core and the cladding of different refractive indexes to create total internal reflection, which is how fiber optics work over long distances with low loss.
The glass (core + clad) is the only part of the fiber that is really recyclable. Everything else is plastic that is difficult to chemically remove.
There's a lot of really bad literature out there on fiberoptics, so I don't really blame anyone for not knowing this stuff. Here's a pretty good article that sums up how fiberoptics work I pulled off google: https://www.ofsoptics.com/faq-guide-to-fiber-optic-cable/how-do-communications-fiber-optic-cables-work/
What makes fiber optic useful is the fact that it is a very specific kind of glass.
But it's still dirt fucking cheap to produce.
The expensive parts of fibre are the transmitters/receivers at each end and the labour to splice/terminate it properly.
It's hyper complex glass
Some are complex, most aren't I'd say.
No, Fiber cables are really cheap. They are basically just glass with some reflective coat.
It is just that the connectors and more importantly the work of attaching those connectors to the cable that makes them expensive. They need to be welded in a dust-free environment, and require lots of skill to get right.
Also, copper cables capable of transmitting high data rates aren't easily manufactured either. Think of shielding, twisted pairs of wires, etc. And they don't even contain a lot of copper.