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Hexbear unironically defends Russia, which is an extremely racist and homophobic place. Likewise, China is also an extremely racist place, which is increasingly opposed to LGBT advocacy as "western degeneracy." And of course, they fall over themselves to defend tyranny, as long as it pays lip service to socialist ideals, while denigrating social democrats as insincere "shit libs." Then they post their little arms crossed emoji thinking they've made some point.
By and large these people are children who legitimately have an extremely narrow view of the world they seek to critique. They see Lenin write that "imperialism is something everyone other than Russia does" and that's about as far as they look into the underlying philosophy of imperialism.
Well, I'm not going to comment on Russia's imperialism being supported on Hexbear because I haven't quite seen that as much as I've seen critique of Ukraine's issue with Nazism and the West's hypocritical denialism about that even existing as an issue in Ukraine—when during Euromaidan it was acknowledged. I don't support Putin or the invasion, because while there are Nazis in Ukraine who should be dealt with the same could be said about Russia or the US itself, but I also don't think the US is being smart by arming fascist Right-wingers. The US has done this before and it never works out well.
I don't quite see the racism argument though. Hexbear is racist because some people support Russia? I mean, yeah, Russia can definitely be racist and maybe some people at Hexbear probably support Russia in an uncritical way. But lacking any racist memes or racist discussions happening, of which I've seen none, I don't think that equates to the users or the instance being racist. The US and Europe are extremely racist societies, I would argue way more racist than Russia, but I don't see people arguing that instances with liberals who support the US are racist instances and should be defederated.
It seems like you just kinda agree with hexbear.
Agree with Hexbear about what, exactly?
I feel like this is such a reddit moment ascribing one, monolithic point of view to a mass of people. Am I Leftist? Yes. If that means I agree with Hexbear, then, yeah, I totally do. But I don't necessarily think I agree wholesale with an instance, not that there is a position that is universal there anyway—other than being a Leftist.
Hexbear is leftist in the way that coontown was right-wing. They're pro-Russia and for the invasion of Ukraine, something that most people on the rational left disagree with.
I'm fine with lumping the members of that domain together because they choose to flock together.
I don't fully understand the analogy because I've never heard of that other place before, for which I am thankful because something tells me it's best not to know it.
It's a (now removed afik) racist subreddit for exactly what you would assume. I make the connection in that it's only right wing insofar as you would assume racism = right wing. The point being that Hexbear is only leftist insofar as you would assume communist ideology is inherently radically leftwing (regardless of its potentially authoritarian implementation). Hexbear is extreme and should not necessarily be lumped into the grand ideology of rational leftists.
(This is my dumbshit opinion)