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[–] [email protected] 227 points 11 months ago (5 children)

You're not going to develop AI for the benefit of humanity at Microsoft. If they go there, we'll know "Open"AI's mission was all a lie.

[–] [email protected] 137 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Yeah Microsoft is definitely not going to be benevolent. But I saw this as a foregone conclusion since AI is so disruptive that heavy commercialization is inevitable.

We likely won't have free access like we do now and it will be enshittified like everything else now and we'll need to pay yet another subscription to even access it.

[–] [email protected] 139 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

"Hey Bing AI can I get a recipe that includes cinnamon"

"Sure! Before we begin did you hear about the great Black Friday deals at Sephora"

"Not interested"

"No problem. You're using query 9 of 20 this month. Do you want to proceed?"

"Yes"

"Before we begin, Bing Max+ has a one month trial starting at just $1 for your first month*. Want to give that a try?"

"Not now"

"No problem. With cinnamon you can make Cinnamon Rolls"

"What else?"

"Sure! You are using query 10 of 20 this month. Before I continue did you hear the McRib is back for a limited time at McDonald's. (ba, da, ba, ba, ba) I'm lovin' it."

[–] [email protected] 77 points 11 months ago

Please drink one verification can!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Fuckin' eerie.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You don't have free access. The best models have always been safeguarded behind paywalls, you have access to parlor tricks and demo shows. This product was born enshittified already. It's crap that's only has passable use for mega corporations.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

For a while we did with ChatGPT 3.5 before 4.0 came out. I'm not sure what to make of Bing's AI since they have ulterior motives and is likely a demo for their ultimate form.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We only have free access now because it's still in development and they're using our interactions to train from, but when they are on more solid ground I fully expect enshittification.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Should be training AI on teaching models, lecture recordings and textbooks

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

it will be enshittified like everything else now and we’ll need to pay yet another subscription to even access it.

Yeah this is why I'm so skeptical about the way it will presumably change the world. It will change things, but the economic relations that determine it's ability to do so will overrule the technological capabilities, since it will be infeasible or not economically viable to deliver on a lot of the hype.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Open AI has been a farce ever since they disabled access to GPT3 for the sake of security.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

OpenAi's majority share holder is Microsoft, and they've already given OpenAI billions

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The way I understand it, Microsoft gave OpenAI $10 billion, but they didn't get any votes. They had no say in their matters.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

On paper, sure. They gave them $10B. They absolutely have some sort of voice here

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

MS owns 49% of the for profit subsidiary and has no votes on the non-profit overseeing body.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And if they don't, we're supposed to keep on believing all of this is somehow benefiting us?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

If they released their models Open Source, we wouldn't have to just believe anything.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

"Go on Sam, make the users enter all their marketable secrets."