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I understand that not everyone is fortunate to have money saved to be able to have the leeway to leave jobs whenever they feel like it and so forth. But I just feel like people have lost their sense of self-respect when it comes down to employment.

I am a firm believer that if you are working at a toxic place and are being harassed or bullied, to stand up to that behavior and tell them that you're not going to take their shit, and if they continue you fucking quit and never look back.

I have known people who have not had a savings who have done this in the past and they end up finding a decent job that doesn't treat them like shit. Do you feel like job Seekers don't defend themselves anymore?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think this is a very American thing. Employers have a lot of leverage over employees because the employees rely on employers for healthcare insurance and there's no real safety net if they get laid off.

In other developed countries, employees will have access to universal healthcare and you have generous unemployment benefits for a much longer time (often up to 90 percent of your previous salary for a year or two or until you find another job (you have to prove your active job search)).

This all creates more balance between employer and employee.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For most people it would take about one month to find new job. So, you can quit in a month.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Change it to half a year. My point still stands.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Your point doesn't stand. The time it takes to get an equivalent job depends on what industry you're talking about and what level of position.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My point is not about time it takes, but about the fact that you can find the job and quit. In this order.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not agreeing with MxM's comment, but you should be interviewing and working your network at all times.

Essentially your current job should be trying to retain you. (Though they aren't aware this is actively happening)

If another opportunity arises (better earning, better learning), take it. The best time to look for a new job is while you have a job, and no employer will be concerned when you tell them you are interested in their position if you simply say your current role isn't meeting your career needs.

This approach will reduce the interviewing cycle time, ideally to zero, but obviously layoffs happen that can catch you out.

Then your point is totally right, might take months