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[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (121 children)

Why is this shit always communist vs capitalist, like we've only got 2 answers avaliable. You fuckers never set foot in a communist country and worship this shit

Fucking communist countries have killed how many millions of their own citizens? Don't really think showing a picture of some buildings is enough to prove that they actually solved any issues. They may have solved those issues for some who were lucky enough to get an apartment, but don't be a hexbear and pretend they housed everyone.

And no, I don't want a response with a link about hurr duer capitalism bad, yeah I know, but I live in capitalism so I already know that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (35 children)

It's simple... If you convince the communists that the capitalists are trying to destroy them, (and vice versa), they fight each other, distracting them from the real enemy: the 1% with enough money to directly influence the folk that make the rules that keep them in the 1% club. We're fighting culture wars so we won't fight class wars, my friend.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you want to fight a class war, you're a communist

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What ideology is it, again, that champions working class people to take their power back? It's certainly not right wing.

If you think the world is fucked because of the greed of the 1%, and you want those people to pay for their crimes through class war, you're communist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Take their power back and give it to the ruling class government you say?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lol no, I do not say. No ruling class. No government. That's communism.

It's bonkers to me that you talk a big talk about class and class conflict, yet are opposed to left wing politics. Where do you think those terms come from?

What's even more bonkers is that you seem to think communism has never said anything about the 1%, when that is the biggest problem communists won't shut up about!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now you're literally saying that I'm saying or thinking something

Huge issues with that kind of projection

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think you know what projection is. The comment I replied to literally said that the 1% and class are the problem, and that communists are distracted. Couldn't be more off base.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man you communists need to figure out how to cope with the existence of written records

Here’s you:

The comment I replied to literally said that the 1% and class are the problem, and that communists are distracted

Actually it said this:

Take their power back and give it to the ruling class government you say?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is the comment I replied to:

It’s simple… If you convince the communists that the capitalists are trying to destroy them, (and vice versa), they fight each other, distracting them from the real enemy: the 1% with enough money to directly influence the folk that make the rules that keep them in the 1% club. We’re fighting culture wars so we won’t fight class wars, my friend.

https://reddthat.com/comment/4678920

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What ideology is it, again, that champions working class people to take their power back?

That sounds like a free market to me. When people have the power to determine their own fate, and how they engage with others for economic coordination.

When everyone has the ability to choose how they engage, that’s called a free market. The economic system based on free markets is called capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That sounds like a free market to me

A free market means zero regulation, so I hope you like drinking poison because "ain't no gubmint telling me how to bottle my soda!"

When people have the power to determine their own fate, and how they engage with others for economic coordination.

This requires kicking capital out of the economy. That would be defeating capitalism.

When everyone has the ability to choose how they engage, that’s called a free market

No, it's called voluntary participation. Free markets inevitably trend toward monopolies and concentrations of power, because the supply side is not held to any standard.

The economic system based on free markets is called capitalism.

And look where it's gotten us - with a 1% bleeding the rest dry.

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