this post was submitted on 10 Nov 2023
1324 points (97.2% liked)
Memes
45666 readers
898 users here now
Rules:
- Be civil and nice.
- Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
We're discussing logical consequences of a thing, not if the thing is possible in the first place.
You don't have to talk logical consistency to rule out "all knowing and all powerful" if you're just looking at how things work in reality.
In reality, you can't be all powerful or all knowing. Done, end of story. It's impossible on the face of it.
In the hypothetical where something can be all powerful, then the power to do whatever, even in a universe that behaves like ours does, is consistent.
The power to do anything includes the absurd, inconsistent, and contradictory.
Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.
If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don't actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it's not. If you're dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.
It is conceptually, definitionally, not compatible with observed reality. "Observed reality" literally cannot reference such things. The question itself is nothing but a thought experiment that far too many people fail to execute.