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Millennials: It's ok to mourn the death of social media::Wired writes how "first-gen social media users have nowhere to go." Ouch.

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[–] [email protected] 254 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm just excited the internet is in part going back to its non corporate backed roots with Lemmy mastodon and the like. The internet started that way, and thanks to the enshitification it will hopefully slowly revert back to it

The idea that corporations were involved in social media was insane looking back. The results were exactly what one would have anticipated

[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I remember when I first started using Reddit and there was so much weird and crazy shit that it really did feel like there was a sub for everything. Now it's so sanitised that it's nowhere near as diverse in its content and subs, hopefully Lemmy/fediverse can have as many different instances as old Reddit and the active community too.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What I don't understand is who is moderating the big subs and why? When r/funny, r/holup, r/publicfreakout, r/damnthatsinsteresting (and I'm sure many others) are all basically the same memes and short videos, what kind of "community" is that? What kind of person signs up to clear the spam out of what is essentially 9gag 2.0 for free?

There are many smaller communities that would probably be happy to move to the Fedi if it were easier and bigger, and I hope Lemmy evolves to the point where those can be absorbed. Reddit can keep the endless meme scrolls.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

It's only the smaller ones that I really miss in the fedi. Like, my pipeline for memes is doing fine, I doubt i'm missing any cultural touchstone moments, but on the corpo-net if you needed info specific info about your window box AC unit, not only was there probably a sub, but there was a larger sub just for general AC that would probably ban your post and say something like "hey post this in windowAC."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this is why r/Android moved to [email protected]. We even made our own instance dedicated to technical content. The reason most people I've been around mod is because they want to either fix a perceived quality problem or maintain a community that they enjoy frequenting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nice, r/StarTrek made its own instance too

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In many cases I believe SOMEONE is paying these supermods.

It's more about controlling public discourse than it is any sense of moral compass IMO.

It's a fairly cheap way to control the narrative on just about whatever you like if you can steer acceptable speech around hot button issues on such a large platform.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

idk, I was in a Discord with many of them during the vaxxhappened protest and I didn't get the impression any had particularly strong backbones. Not saying it doesn't happen but I really have a hard time picturing most of the "powermods" as having the will to control anything. They (largely) seemed pretty afraid to rock the boat or upset Spez.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Power hungry douches that have nothing better to do with their lives. Some of these people actually consider it a job, even though they don't get paid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why our society is so fucked, someone with community spirit wants to help maintain a fun community which is free to access for everyone in the world and what do they get? Nothing but hate and abuse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

People who don't appreciate moderators but also don't like unmoderated places like 8chan are like the "No take only throw" dog.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

BreadStapledToTrees had me so confused the first time I found it. It still confuses me. Even though I have only been active on Reddit for the past 5 years, even I saw a massive change in it.

When I first found GoneWild and the like I was like "Mother of God, this is amazing..." and now 85% of the porn subs are just OF advertisements.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I remember that sub. I’m pretty sure there’s a sub with a similar name that is used for furry porn, for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

This, every time I see a post in the frontpage here where someone has taken a picture of a pear stuffed up their ass (etc etc), I breathe a sigh of relief knowing no advertisers or asshole CEOs are ruining this place. Feels like the old days of the internet, roughly. Sure it's small, but it feels real, not sterile and clean for advertisers and shareholders.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use old reddit from time to time to check specific subs and it's wild seeing how boring they've gotten.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Do we have a Fediverse equivalent of Facebook yet..?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yes, Friendica has been around for longer than Mastodon has.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably about the same as Google+, no one you know uses it because they're all on Facebook.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You mean no one I know uses it and they're not on Facebook anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not great. The ux is stuck in 2006

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Mastodon has rich media features and such that it could be considered a replacement for modern Facebook.

Now for the legacy Facebook that was more focused on the Facebook wall, homepages, and etc. There really isn’t a replacement but nobody can use Facebook for that now.

As for a replacement for Facebook groups, kbin or Lemmy can do it. Kbin does both the microblogging/status updates and communities.

Someone else mentioned frendica. But I don’t have any experience with that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Facebook does a lot of things. Depends on what exactly you're looking for. Facebook allows you to follow friends and organizations (= Mastodon), it also allows you to participate in groups (= Lemmy), and then it has a few other features too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Bluesky now has a federated server and moving people over. I'm curious how that's going to play out.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Bluesky is not really decentralized like Mastodon. It's more like crypto where the bigger you are the more influence you have over the network. There is zero incentive for someone to host a server off of .social since they will control it. Having a BS server does nothing besides provide Jack Dorsey and co with a little free hosting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I use both and mainly curious because it doesn't take as much as Mastodon to show you what you want to see. Or maybe I think that because I came from Mastodon to Bluesky, but I understand what both are. People know what Bluesky is but when I bring up Mastodon people are not really interested. Jack Dorsey is also no longer involved.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I’m hopeful that long term, AtProto and ActivityPub end up merged into one future standard. But even if they end up separate, it’s not the end of the world since they’re both open and bridges already exist.

It’s kind of like Atom and RSS. Soon, users won’t have to care or know the difference and eventually, code libraries will make it so even developers don’t have to know the details.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

the internet is in part going back to its non corporate backed roots with Lemmy mastodon and the like.

I'm very small part.

and thanks to the enshitification it will hopefully slowly revert back to it

Twitter has proven that they won't. Reddit has proven that they won't. They've both proven that you can shit all over your own users, give them nothing in return, and they'll complain for a few days but never leave in any significant numbers. Meta has proven that these shitty corporations can start up wholly new operation (Threads) and the masses will flock to it by the tens of millions.

People have demonstrated over and over that, by and large, they will let these corporations piss on their heads and tell them it's raining and that they will do absolutely nothing about it.