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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 year ago (23 children)

I'm sure it's much harder to manage a Premium subscription than it is to simply install uBO

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And an ad blocker should be part of everyone's personal and organisational security model regardless, so you'd have to install ublock and specifically turn it off for YouTube.

But of course, the reason people block ads is most of the Google ads were straight malware at one point.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Can't use uBO from most of the devices I actually watch YouTube on.

For me, it's much easier to just pay for Premium. No ads on my phone, Playstation, Chromecast, or locked-down work laptop that I can't install extensions on.

And the creators whose content I consume still get paid for my views. Honestly, it's worth it for both my use-case and my morals.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Revanced for android, SmartTube for android TV

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Possibly something like PiHole? Though I've not tried that myself.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

PiHole doesn't work on YouTube ads unfortunately. No DNS based blocker does.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Not sure why you're getting downvoted, paying for services you use shouldn't be looked down upon. It's way easier then trying to always be ahead of the ad block blockers. I do block all ads on websites though

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I started Premium as Google Play Music back when. Made sense as an alternative to Spotify. In my book, it still does. Ad-free YouTube is just a bonus for a music streaming service.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Agreed. Family plan is priced similar to Spotify, and ad free YouTube is a nice bonus

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It could just have something to do with the fact that many people think ads are not only annoying but also highly manipulative, creating artificial needs in people, a tool to make already successful and rich companies even richer, ... and the surrounding technology to power them is unethical, hoarding tons of information, building profiles of people, tracking which websites they visit, what search terms they use, ...

When people talk about blocking ads, being frustrated about them showing up, it's just kind of disrespectful to be like "well you could just pay for the service, you know?". Besides, who knows how much actually ends up in the creators' pockets.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

how much actually ends up in the creators’ pockets

For most, very little. For the big ones, millions of dollars, and I always resent people lecturing me about "morals" because I'm not willing to subsidize a rich person's hobby.

Regular perople aren't making anything from YouTube, only the ones who had the capital to invest in their channels upfront. I don't feel compelled to pay for any of that, and I'd just as soon have their content filtered from my feed if it's immoral not to want to see ads.

The channel I use most often is Audible Anarchist, and I really don't think they give a fuck if I use an adblocker or even Piped to watch their videos.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never forget that youtube filters us towards those creators, too. New creators saying a new message? They aren't gonna get any attention. Youtube de-prioritized LGBT and BIPOC content tags for years.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yep, I never let YouTube recommend me content, because it's all highly-polished monetized garbage. They've made it purposely difficult to find videos uploaded by normal people. I used to watch this random lady with a pet squirrel who made videos with her phone, it was so fun to watch. Once it all became monetized, that got buried. It's to the point that most of what you see on the front page, you could just as well be watching cable TV. It's so bad.

I feel like an old man saying this, but it seems there are a lot of younger users who got sucked into the YouTube algorithm and see this all as normal or even good. That's why you get weird accusations of "stealing" content or not supporting "creators," as if it's my job to subsidize some rich person's hobby. The entire reason I liked YouTube is it was a free forum where users could share random videos with each other. If it's not that anymore, then it can die for all I care -- I don't want it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I know. I managed a YouTube partner account, but also I Googled it just now.

$1-2 per 1,000 views is what I'm reading, but I can say I personally saw numbers at least five times less than that with the amount I managed.

If anyone wants to support a creator, just donate money to them directly. They'll be absolutely floored by the gesture.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah you can have YouTube premium and also use an ad blocker…. Being mad at YouTube is just the hot thing right now

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You don't have to always be ahead. I've been using revanced for years now without problems. Before that Vanced. My computer has had ublock origin with 0 issues for years prior to the recent changes. To resolve those I literally had to click 2 buttons in the UI. Bam no ads. Have had no problems since. The time I've invested in configuring adblocking since I started watching YouTube, sometime around 2008-9, has probably amounted to 20 minutes of time.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can afford it and use it all the time. It’s completely unreasonable to expect a company to provide a service for you for free without any way for them to monetize you. Hosting videos isn’t free so why should they pay for you to have access to their service

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can afford it and refuse to pay on principle. I actually would be glad if Google went out of business (although extremely unlikely). Monopolistic Companies like them use every opportunity to cheat and modify laws to give them advantage and remove any chance of a new innovative competitor taking over. Then they expect us to act honorable and play by the rules that they set up.

They are the cancer and we need to restore old antitrust laws that supposed to prevent them from ever getting so big.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Once upon a time it was worth it for me too. But since every service is running up the rates, I had to decide which, if any, deserved my money. Google didn't make the cut. I have a feeling nobody will by the end of year

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (12 children)

uBlock works on Firefox on Android.

ReVanced replaces native YouTube app and Smart Tube replaces YouTube on TV.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Paying Google doesn't feel like the correct thing to do when they keep making Youtube worse while increasing the price. Morally I think it's wrong to reward their shitty decisions against other users. Personally I'm still mad about they removed the dislike counter.

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