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New evidence confirms COVID-19 vaccines are overwhelmingly safe::More than 38 million COVID-19 vaccine doses have been administered in Ontario as of Oct. 8, with 23,002 reports of adverse reactions, an incidence of 0.06 per cent, Public Health Ontario says

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I guess whatever it takes to convince the skeptics. Though I figure nothing will convince them once they've made up their mind.

[–] [email protected] 99 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I don't like calling them "skeptics," because what they really are is super-gullible with regards to conspiracy theories.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Science deniers" is a better description.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Step 1. Ask what someone thinks about vaccinations Step 2. Ask them what they think about evolution Step 3. Ask about climate change Step 4. Ask about what church they go to

You will learn so much of this overlaps. So much.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Flat earth. Crystals. Cupping.

Anything to avoid the reality that we’re fucking up society and the planet in favour of ‘we can fix it with woo’ or ‘it’s preordained that we’re all gonna die in god’s wrath-fire’. Neither will lift a finger to fix things.

Nobody wants to live in reality because it’s scary.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

There was real reason to be skeptical at first. mRNA vaccines have been in the works for decades and they had just gotten some that work well, then rushed it through. Drug companies aren't known for being conservative with claims when there's money to be made.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

"I don't know... those first fifty studies of vaccine safety didn't sway me. Maybe 51 will"

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Cannot use logic to convince someone whose argument isn't logical in the first place

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've always preferred it phrased as "You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into," but same energy.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I always preferred the Mark Twain quote, "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." Because I've been beaten bloody with that experience on more than one occasion.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or: "It's like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are it'll knock over your pieces and shit on the board"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Or ‘Never wrestle with a pig because you'll both get dirty and the pig likes it.’ – George Bernard Shaw