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Context: Chat Control 2.0: EU governments set to approve the end of private messaging and secure encryption

"By making a minor concession EU governments hope to find a majority next week to approve the controversial 'chat control' bill. According to the proposed child sexual abuse regulation (CSAR), providers of messengers, e-mail and chat services would be forced to automatically search all private messages and photos for suspicious content and report it to the EU. To find a majority for this unprecedented mass surveillance, the EU Council Presidency proposed Tuesday that the scanners would initially search for previously classified CSAM only, and even less reliable technology to classify unknown imagery or conversations would be reserved to a later stage. The proposed β€ždealβ€œ will be discussed by ambassadors tomorrow and could be adopted by ministers next week."

Source: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chat-control-2-0-eu-governments-set-to-approve-the-end-of-private-messaging-and-secure-encryption/

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Friendly reminder it's never about consumer rights. It's about who is in control of the data.

A question you can all ask yourself. Despite the warts in both who would you rather control your data (you have no choice here. Someone is controlling your data and it is not you)

A. Google, Amazon, Microsoft, etc.

B. Government

You'll get strong answers either way. Personally I'd rather the government strictly from an accountability perspective but that also warrants governments not electing shitheads which unfortunately the world is leaning towards with these populist right wing politicians gaining favour.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago

It can be you. It doesn't have to be Big Corps or Government. It can be federated instances, it can be self-ownership of data, it can be E2E encrypted.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

A, by a goddamn long shot. If google mistakenly thinks I've advocated for a crime against a massive corporation, they'll remove my account and ban me from their services. If the government mistakenly thinks I've advocated for a crime against a massive corporation, they'll arrest me and ruin my life. Microsoft doesn't give a shit if you acquired the 1s and 0s that comprise a popular TV show without paying for them. The government will fine you more than the average person will make in their entire life.

It also depends on where you live. Facebook doesn't care if you're gay or trans, if anything that's valuable monetizable data about you. Iran will straight up fucking kill you.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

Tbf in this scenario, google reports you to the police. You get arrested in either scenario.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

This one is completely about the people who pretend to "care about the children" but coincidentally also sell the software that does the proposed CSAM scanning. It's a money making-scheme for them. Shit like this makes me lose the last bit of hope I have for democracy (really hard to not put this into quotes by this point ... +__+).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

The privacy tech is so robust and easily available right now that anyone could spend a few days and replace their everything with privacy focused alternative while still maintaining a solid experience.