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What positive steps are being taken towards stalling climate change? (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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Fear doesn't work, we've known this for decades. If we know what positive steps are being taken, then we can support those or perhaps build on them if you're able.

What about this?: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210310-the-trillion-dollar-plan-to-capture-co2 We know corporations are a big part of the issue. Are there ways they're being regulated?

That fear based, helpless feeling needs to be shot down when ever we see people spreading that. We need to take action, but no one is talking about what we, as a single household, can do. I'm not saying we alone can fix everything. What steps can we do and/or how can we support people who are doing the right thing?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I’m going to politely disagree. We should be afraid, but not the helpless feeling you describe, but an actionable, productive fear.

I totally agree that we should move forward and have that fight response. The thing I'm bringing up is, that a lot of us have a freeze response instead of the fight response you're talking about. I think that's what a lot of people in my area have too, I live in Seattle. I'm not speaking for all freeze responders but I need concrete action steps to follow to get me out of it. I was testing out AI a month or so ago, and every question I asked had action steps as a response. I asked the AI why they did that, if they were programmed to do that. AI said that it was mostly what their training material did.

You're saying get angry and loud, but at who? My state already is doing a pretty great job at the governor level. I guess what I'm asking for isn't how bad we're doing things, it's obviously pretty bad. But what are we doing that's working and how can everyone build on that? If it works, I don't care if big oil makes money off of it but you're making a good case that it doesn't and it's a facade for them to get more money. Who can we support then, and how? Who's doing it right?

On your edit: Wow, I haven't heard anything about the Atlanta thing, thanks for mentioning it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Cop_City

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

If you're in the US, even if you personally literally stop eating, breathing, and even moving, the US military is emitting such an enormous amount of carbon on your behalf that you still have among the worst "carbon footprint" (a dubious concept generally but useful for this discussion) on earth.

Personally, I'm a member of several socialist groups, because I believe only large, structural changes can fix this, even before we talk about fixing them equitably. The DSA is active in your area, so that's a really good place to start. There's also an Extinction Rebellion chapter in your area. Another good place to start. If you have specific interests, say economics, I can suggest other organizations too.

Important question, by the way. Appreciate you posting it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are you in the US? Do you know if we have citizen watch groups for the military regarding their output or do they give out the information openly? An environmental arm of the military would be interesting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am! The US military's fossil fuel usage is very well-documented and a matter of public record. Here's a forbes article about it, titled The U.S. Military Emits More CO2 Than Many Industrialized Nations . Forbes isn't exactly a left-wing rag!