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Why don't the whole planet just use UTC+00:00 / Universal Time without time zones?
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this post was submitted on 31 May 2025
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Assertion isn't evidence. You have yet to actually say a single thing about why you think I'm wrong, just that you do. This is not how argumentation and debate work.
This isn't ridicule, it's just baseless name-calling. This is elementary school-level insults. If it were ridicule, it would have any evidence behind it at all. The longer you go without providing any basis for your claims, the more clear it becomes that you have none.
Every system humanity uses is arbitrary. We decide and agree that something arbitrary is useful, and then we decide to imbue that arbitrary thing with meaning.
Words didn't mean anything until we assigned meaning to them, and you can tell they're arbitrary because the same combination of syllables can mean something completely different in another language. For someone who claims to know multiple languages, you should be aware of that. Meters aren't meters because they have to be; we decided that the distance light travels in 0.000000003335641s is a useful amount of distance. We could've easily defined it as the distance light travels in 0.000000003335642s and it wouldn't be any more or less logical.
That's how humans work. We give arbitrary things meaning. You insisting that the shapes in the clouds are definitely sharks doesn't make them sharks. The shapes are arbitrary.
Contrasted with the complete lack of argument you've made.
Aw, buddy, you already tried that insult once. And it wasn't funny the first time.
Now that one's funny! Good job. I knew you could do it.
I mean, support your claims that there's something inherent about timekeeping systems. Something in our brains, or in the rotation of the Earth, or in the physical properties of light, or something that means that high noon has to be represented on the clock as 1200.
That's what "support" means. That's what evidence is. That's what any reasonable, good-faith argument has to include.
I am starting to think that you believe "arbitrary" means "random." But that isn't what it means. It means "randomly chosen," or perhaps "selected without impetus." The Egyptians didn't have to choose twelve constellations; nobody was forcing them to, and there wasn't anything inherent about them that required them to base a system of timekeeping around it.
You're welcome! I love knowing that I'm helping put some joy into the world.
Oh, thanks for the reminder, I forgot to log the book I finished yesterday.
You still can't even answer without making it like homework for yourself, singling out things as if this is some official debate. It isn't. It's just you equivocating.
"Wyaaa everything is actually arbitrary, EVERYTHING! So I was never wrong about it!"
The word "arbitrary" has a non-arbitrary meaning.
You can keep equivocating. It won't change anything. You're still wrong.
Yeah, I now I haven't explained to you in detail why you're wrong, but I assumed you can't be so stupid as to keep arguing that all time keeping systems are arbitrary when I point out the divisibility of hours.
Keep on lying about having read a book, surely saying you're not a moron makes it so that you magically aren't. You're ignorant of just how ignorant you are.
You definitely voted Trump with an IQ like that.
Do I need to paste the meaning of "arbitrary" here again?
Like I said, you don't even speak ONE language fluently while I speak almost a dozen on some level.
"EVERYTHING is arbitrary words don't mean anything I'm never wrong and I'm not lying or pretending"
When will you realise I've never taken you seriously, clown? You're my ENTERTAINMENT.
Homework? Nah bro. This is just what I do while I wait for my code to compile or my lunch to heat up.
Pretty sure that's not what I said, but go off I guess.
Citation needed.
Ah yes, the one actual fact you've managed to dredge up, and it also just happens to be absolutely coincidental.
I don't have any need for you to believe me. You may feel free to not. I know what I've done and who I am.
I'm 100% absolutely certain this is true! But not in this case.
Definitely not. Even if I was dumb enough, I'm not cruel enough.
I put it into my previous response, so I think we've got it covered for now.
I'm so proud of you. I mean, it's not relevant to the conversation, but still. Good job.
lol, I actually have "WORDS MEAN THINGS" written on the back of a notebook somewhere. That's pretty funny that you'd say that specifically.
I've specifically said multiple times in this conversation that I know I can be wrong and I love being proven wrong. You have yet to do anything of that sort, though.
Probably if you put it in all caps I'll believe you.
You can't even write a short comment without pasting the bits you're commenting?
It looks like you have a genuine memory issue, or this is your first time on forums.
I don't aim to prove anything to you. It is beyond hilarious that you note the divisibility of hours (while not even understanding what the word means, lol) while calling it arbitrary.
"I know what I have done and who I am"
Yup, a pathetic liar. :D
"Oh I'm wondering whether it was a video-series", bitch pls, you saw a random YouTube short or something.
Everything from your behaviour and word's show what an ignorant moron you are and every time you return, you're digging yourself deeper.
How many languages did you speak again? Why's there no time systems with a prime number of hours? If the amount of hours was actually arbitrary, it could. But none are. Why is that? For an arbitrary thing? Or is it that you're still not accepting the word's definition?
It's hilarious how often I end up teaching Americans English.
What's the word "arbitrary" mean again, and why did you claim "every system we use is arbitrary"? You surely weren't using the word wrong, because that'd be a mistake and you looooove admitting to mistakes you make, right? ;>
I honestly had to check and see if this was a copy/paste of your previous comment. All right. This is no longer fun for me. Peace.
It's no longer fun pretending you didn't misuse a word you clearly misused?
Wow, I'm shocked.
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Defaulting to the oneliner because you're in a paradox. You can't stop replying, because you "want the last word", but you've already "lost", seeing how you very clearly argued — for days — that timekeeping systems are arbitrary. Then went onto explain how "all systems are actually arbitrary", just plain ignoring the meaning of the word, because you hate admitting when you're wrong.
Which is exceedingly ironic, seeing how this thread has several comments from you boasting how you love to admit when you make mistakes. ;>
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Can't address anything we talked about? Shocking.
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Seeing this spam on your profile sure gives the impression of very intelligent and mature person.
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Such intelligence and bravery, standing behind your words!
It would take a very egotistical coward to childishly replying without replying.
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That's a very intelligent looking post history. People checking your profile will surely be impressed.
(Now's the part where you claim you don't care about that, while clearly overtly caring about a thing online to the extent you have to keep spamming "k" to a thread while you can't even address the subject. Quite pitiful, really.)
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What's the definition of "arbitrary" and why do you think timekeeping systems are arbitrary? Didn't that "book" you "read" teach you anything?
Or was that perhaps a pathetic lie?
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So now you're in the "I'm gonna return every few days, so my profile won't look as silly when all my childish answers aren't packed one after another, but spread over weeks"-phase?
Like I said, I've genuinely been down this path hundreds of times before, seen your exact "tactic" employed. You have nowhere to go, and you can't address the topic at all. Check mate. You've lost, and now you're just digging deeper and deeper.
What’s the definition of “arbitrary” and why do you think timekeeping systems are arbitrary?
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I don't want to come off as bullying, but I think it'll benefit from you if you learn to handle situations like this. So I'm gonna keep replying. Sorry.
Why do you consider timekeeping systems to be arbitrary?
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Remember when you were talking about how you love to admit it when you make mistakes, because it's a learning opportunity? Or was that someone else pulling this same shit. Because again, I have seen this 1000 times over several years if not decades.
lol you're posting screenshots now
Still not reading anything you post. Keep at it though. Maybe next time.
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Good looking, intellectual, profile, eh?
I won this time, like I usually do.
You're dragging this out because you're pretending you didn't. But... You can't talk about the thread. You're just seething that you're caught in this. Ego makes you reply without you being able to talk about why you're in the thread to start with.
Like I've said, I've seen this a 1000 times. You think you're being clever. No. You're just being infantile.