this post was submitted on 01 Oct 2023
165 points (90.6% liked)
Memes
45889 readers
1517 users here now
Rules:
- Be civil and nice.
- Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
In an ICE you can have an air/fuel/electrical issue, and the entire system is designed to overcome the inherent design flaws of the technology, thus making it convoluted and difficult to understand. Not only can an EM be explained and taught far easier than a full ICE breakdown, but you can literally build one as an Elementary school science project with some copper wire, batteries, and magnets. The technology has only one point of failure as opposed to three. If it doesn't work, electricity is the ONLY possible reason.
EM's have a significantly smaller chance of failure due to the simplicity of the design with fewer moving parts, so while current EM's aren't really built to be repaired by their operators, one that's designed to be would be incredibly simple for the layman to understand and repair had they the knowledge and tools available. The technology itself isn't the issue, in fact, I'd argue the average random could learn how to repair an EM in much less time than an ICE, we just don't build them that way currently (like how we don't build modern ICE's to be repaired by their drivers.)
Ok. So do you think EV makers make it easy to repair them? Because they sure as hell don't. On paper you can, I agree with that. But they lock the software and hardware in bizzare ways, so that you have to go to a certified mechanic.
Which is exactly what modern cars are like to fix, what's your point? I specifically mentioned how we don't design them to be repaired by the owner in my comment.
That all sounds very impressive, rocket m00se. Until you get down to the tricky business of actually trying to identify and replaced a single failed cell in a massive factory-sealed battery array. It is NOT easy and there are many traps placed in your way on purpose. I would rather work on a broken ICE vehicle any day of the week.
It's almost like I specifically mentioned that modern vehicles (no matter the powerplant) aren't designed to be fixed by the person driving it, and are created so that special tools/technicians are needed.
I stand by my point, EM's are far simpler and if they were designed like old cars with the owner in mind, they'd be dead simple for someone with next to zero knowledge to troubleshoot compared to the over engineered mess that internal combustion ended up as.