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Zuckerberg’s 2012 email dubbed “smoking gun” at Meta monopoly trial (arstechnica.com)
submitted 3 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Meta argued that "the FTC’s case rests almost entirely on emails (many more than a decade old) allegedly expressing competitive concerns" but suggested that this is only "intent" evidence, "without any evidence of anticompetitive effects."

Not sure I understand the argument. if I write that I'm going to buy another company instead of competing with them, then I go ahead and I do buy that exact company, are they arguing that the two things are not necessarily related?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes. The argument is, raise the burden of proof: you are proving what my intent was, and what actions I took, but you should be proving negative market effects. Just because I said it, and I did it, doesn’t mean I succeeded. And if I didn’t there’s no reason to be broken up.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Thanks, I understand better now.

On a related note, I wish I had known of the "just because I said it and I did it, doesn't mean I succeeded" line of defense when I was a kid

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Haha! Yes, but not sure how effective it would have been. I think parenting counts intent way above outcomes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

"Attempted murder? What next? The Nobel prize in attempted physics?"