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Great ATProto blog post on the reasoning behind their design architecture (atproto.com)

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Fediverse is ActivityPub, because ActivityPub is how Fediverse servers talk to each other. BlueSky does not talk to Fediverse servers, so it cannot be said to be part of the Fediverse.

[+] [email protected] -11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Posted in another comment but wikipedia disagrees.

The Fediverse (commonly shortened to fedi)[4][5][6] is a collection of social networking services that can communicate with each other (formally known as federation) using a common protocol.

We can argue semantics all day but at the end of the day I'll hold the same stance that we shouldn't be fracturing the communities and instead discussing the content and idea of a decentralized communicating social media landscape.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

wE CaN aRgUe SeMaNtiCs aLL dAy

we shouldn't be fracturing the communities

Maybe use the same protocol, then.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

I believe you're quoting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse

It seems that document currently expresses that "the AT Protocol, which powers the Bluesky social network" is "[a] major protocol in competition with the Fediverse", which suggests that neither "the AT Protocol" nor "Bluesky" are included in the Fediverse.

Moreover, "AT Protocol" and "Bluesky" are conspicuously absent from the second paragraph of the article content / lead section.

The majority of Fediverse platforms are based on free and open-source software, and create connections between servers using the ActivityPub protocol. Some software still supports older federation protocols as well, such as OStatus, the Diaspora protocol and Zot. Diaspora* is the only actively developed software project classified under the original definition of Fediverse that does not support ActivityPub.

There discussion related to this around https://thebrainbin.org/m/[email protected]/t/705694/-/comment/5682552

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And what common protocol is that? If it doesn't talk to Fediverse servers using those servers' protocol, then it's not part of the same network.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

ATProto is it's own protocol / network of social media services that are communicating with each other?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

So we agree that it is a different network? It is not the network that is the Fediverse?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The "Fediverse" (capital F) refers to the social media platforms utilizing ActivityPub, specifically. I don't believe there's any agreed-upon name for such a network on ATProto, since Bluesky is the only platform actively using it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

I don’t believe there’s any agreed-upon name for such a network on ATProto

They use the term 'Atmosphere' which is, admittedly, a really good play on words.