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Artificial Generalized Incompetence

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[–] [email protected] 126 points 1 day ago (5 children)

How about the outlet checks and finds out?

I did, and I couldn’t get low-temperature Gemini or a local LLM to replicate it, and not all the tariffs seem to be based on the trade deficit ratio, though some suspiciously are.

Sorry, but this is a button of mine, outlets that ask stupidly easy to verify questions but dont even try. No, just cite people on Reddit and Twitter…

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

They tariffed places with no people in them.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That bothers me too. Get an actual expert source to verify before you publish shit from randos on Twitter and Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

"several X users claim", they say for sources. Christ Almighty.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In this case, it's as simple as "type it into ChatGPT, like the Reddit users did" :/

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"these lazy fucks in the government are using ai to come up with policy"

Also news outlet

"I am too lazy to do the laziest thing I'm angry about, even though it's my literal job"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

"News outlet" is a huge stretch. It's a crypto currency blog pretending to be news.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But that doesn't confirm or deny that Trumps formula came from ChatGPT, they could both be drawing from some other source.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can generally toggle LLM "grounding" features, aka inserting web searches into their context.

Modern LLMs have a information "cutoff" of a few months ago, at the latest, so the base models will have zero awareness of this formula.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Unless the formula came from something that already existed that both Trumps people and these models are referencing to come up with the same number.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

though some suspiciously are.

Some? A huge portion are. Numerous others have replicated it with visual proof. I agree that the news sites should be verifying it, but NYT did and also documented their proof.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Appears to be that calculation minimum of 10%

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Am I still going crazy or what, trade deficit =/= tariffs right??

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

No you're not going crazy, you just understand economics and trade more than the President of the USA.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Thanks, much appreciated.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because the article is likely just more GenAI vomit, and an LLM doesn't have any degree of deductive reasoning ability to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

TBH it's probably human written.

I used to write small articles for a tech news outlet on the side (HardOCP), and the entire site went under well before the AI boom because no one can compete with conveyer belts of of thoughtless SEO garbage, especially when Google promotes it.

Point being, this was a problem well before the rise of LLMs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you annoyed that they didn't try to replicate it, or that they're disparaging LLMs?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

That they didn’t try to replicate it.