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Weak minded people are easy to exploit
In other words the people supporting this shit are idiots who have no critical thinking skills.
Get ready for a full generation of weak minded morons now that the Dept. Of Education is gone. It can always get worse.
Eh, we've had that generation for awhile now.
Public schooling has never fostered critical thinking skills.* If it did, students would be asking themselves why they have to work so hard while rich kids don't.
Public schooling has been best at rewarding people who are willing to take abuse while punishing those who do not. It's main purpose is to create effective servants for the ruling class.
It doesn't need to be this way, but it is and will stay until we decide to change our culture.
*I've had great teachers that have gone above and beyond to get students thinking about the bigger picture, usually history and literature teachers. I'm thankful to have met them and studied under them. It's sad seeing how their hands are tied when trying to really educate students about the world around them.
Umm, removal of DOE does not remove schools.
Maybe not yet. But that is the ultimate goal. That’s not even a slippery slope fallacy. Poor people don’t need an education, let them start working when old enough for school. These are goals they are working towards little by little. If you don’t know that you are not paying attention. You are just hearing what is said by known liars and believing it for every little step until the goal is met.
The removal of the DOE will just allow states to be in charge of their schools, instead of the federal gov. It doesn't need to be federalized. Most things should be state run, not federal run. The point of having states is so people can more choice in what they want for themselves.
If you like the way state B operates better than the state F operates, then you have the ability to either move to State F, or to work on convincing those in state B to change the way they operate. But when the fed runs it, you're stuck with it.
Just move huh? Just change the government? Simple. I’m sure no state will defy the constitution regarding education. And all states will care about all students and listen to local school boards. Local boards are even smaller and not need the state then. It’s great that it’s all about making things better for all and being more efficient. Sure, that’s the only reason for this. Maybe states should just become their own country, or change the federal government if they don’t like it instead of eliminating it.
I bet you believe abortion is about “states rights” too. I’m sure it’s all decided now and no need to push for a federal ban. Nobody is pushing for that I’m sure. lol. Do you believe that abortion is only about abortion even?
It’s not even worth typing out all the ways your whole statement Is silly. Anyone with even a partial brain can see what the end goals have always been. And when given a chance, what they have and will do with the power. And yet people like you just push the absolute dumbest narrative you can and somehow believe it.
It is why we have states.
The problem with this is that there ends up being no national education standard. You take a state like Alabama, which ranks dead last in so many education metrics, and remove those federal standards. Now Alabama can just change their state standards, and suddenly they have a 100% graduation rate with all straight A students. Guess what happens when Cletus the Alabama valedictorian tries to get a job in the medical field or the tech sector.
And that's before we ever even talk about funding. States get about 15% of their K-12 funding from the federal government. Where are the states going to make up that difference? Higher state taxes? Higher property taxes? Or are they just going to let already struggling schools go to shit? Guess who that affects the most?
You really haven't put a lot of thought into this beyond "federal gubmint bad".
"Oh no, what will we ever do if the federal government doesn't set our standards? We are too dumb to set our own standards!"
I'm pretty sure the states can figure it out on their own. And any school can feel free to set their own standards even higher if they wish.
It's not about being "too dumb". It's about having skills that transfer across state lines. There's a reason we don't let doctors and lawyers from other countries just set up a shop and start practicing in the US without meeting American standards first. Now imagine that happening from one state to the next. In your naive attempt to reduce the size of government, you've actually increased government bureaucracy and red tape by orders of magnitude.
And again, where are states going to make up that 15% of funding provided by the federal government?
The fed gov could lower their taxes that are used for it, and the states could raise theirs. The fed should not be taking care of states except helping in emergency situations. States should be taking care of themselves financially.
I get what you're saying, but you're also saying some states are too dumb. If their leaders are too dumb, then they can replace their leaders, same as we do with the fed gov.
I'm not saying some states are "too dumb". I'm saying some states are too poor, and the poor shouldn't be left to suffer compounding negative results because their citizens can't shoulder the burden of higher state taxes. Because I promise you that federal taxes will not go down. Once the government has gotten used to milking you for X amount, they aren't going to give up that cash flow. All that will happen is that poor states will just get worse and worse as education falls and they fail to produce a workforce qualified for anything other than menial labor.
I get what you're saying, but I still think the federal gov has there hands in too many things. The states can be responsible for themselves, if they aren't doing a good job, then it's up to the people to vote in leaders who will do a better job.
And it will get worse. It’s been getting worse. Orange dick is just an additional progression of it all.