this post was submitted on 28 Sep 2023
767 points (96.7% liked)

Memes

45189 readers
1470 users here now

Rules:

  1. Be civil and nice.
  2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

He wasn't introduced as a nazi, none of those MP's knew the truth about who they were standing for, and they wouldn't have if they did. Somebody didn't do background research, and old nazi never should have been anywhere near parliament. It's incompetence all around.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

He was introduced as having fought the Russians during WW2, there's literally only one option as to what side that leaves him on. Either parliament is completely devoid of the most basic history education, or they knew damn well what they were applauding.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

So did Finland though, and they ended WW2 fighting the Germans.

Although Finland was significantly less "gas the Jews" than Ukraine was.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

IIRC, he fought the Russians to protect Ukraine from their invasion. He had no other allegiance to Germany or Nazis. It was a "the enemy of my enemy is my ally" situation.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Man was literally a part of the 1st Galician division of the SS

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

He was literally in a volunteer division of the SS. Wtf do you mean no allegiance to the nazis? He was a nazi.

IIRC, he fought the Russians to protect Ukraine from their invasion.

Wtf is this historical revisionism? The soviets did not invade Ukraine, Germany did. He was fighting for the invaders.

https://www.britannica.com/place/Ukraine/The-Nazi-occupation-of-Soviet-Ukraine

Read this. Seriously.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

He volunteered to be part of the waffen ss, they mostly terrorized the civilian population and helped with extermination, they weren't involved in actual warfighting that much and when they did fight they lost badly because they weren't meant to be military, they were meant to terrorize civilians and help with extermination.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah he wasn't a nazi, he was a nazi ally

Not... much better, but could be worse?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Most Ukrainians fought for their country as part of the red army. Something like 28:1. The nazi collaborators of the waffen SS like the fascist who was celebrated by the Canadian parliament mostly did "antipartisan activities" which involved killing a bunch of Jewish people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

That's politics for you