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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A quick search and you will notice that the people suddenly concerned about Germanies hatespeech laws are trustworthy folks like jd vance, trump and other far right actors. Also the fact that procecusion doesn't happen often, shows that it is enforced with causion and not arbitrary like in the case of the current US deportation nightmare. That is abuse of power. Maybe the US wouldn't have trumps fascist takeover, if they had speech laws, like in Germany.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So just because people you don't like express concern about something means that it automatically must be false? This type of "logic" is very dangerous. And prosecution clearly does happen a lot. Literally 10 cases a day in one German state according to the article and only 0.5 of those cases actually result in conviction, which means that clearly this is used to intimidate and punish people generally rather than a sincere attempt to enforce the law.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Lol, no one who just "expresses concern" will be sued in Germany. It will always be insults and incitement to violence that will lead to this.

However I would say that there have been trials because of really "easy" insults, started by politicians. And here you've got a point IMO that these laws are also used for intimidation. As a politician you should be able to tolerate some insults without having to sue each and every offender out there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

95% failure to convict indicates the defendants may have shown rehabilitation and regret so the judge applied jurisprudence. I know this may be a foreign concept to a US american but in the civilised world, prison is a rehabilitation solution, not a "for profit" slavery distributor to help GAP and McDonald's get free labour.