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[–] [email protected] 115 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is so pathetic by Google.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They all bend the knee. Just wait until the persecution of political opposition becomes a thing.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Has nothing to do with bending the knee. The executive order literally changed the official name of the Gulf in the U.S. This situation is ridiculous, but it is the new U.S. government that you need to complain about, not the people implementing or deferring to their decisions.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago

Do. Not. Comply.

Giving in is what gives them the power.

I absolutely will call out people who think it's ok to just go along with the new fascist regime.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Obama renamed Mt. McKinley to Denali by executive order. Trump is using executive order to rename it back.

Biden outlawed oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico. Trump used executive order to rename it so the Gulf of Mexico "doesn't exist". (EDIT: Actually the naming appears to be unrelated to this. The drilling ban was specifically reversed in a different executive order that reversed several Biden EOs)

It's all questionable use of executive order. But which party is going to step up and say "the last guy did it, but our guy shouldn't be able to ignore checks & balances anymore"?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The difference is that it's intentional waters and the International Hydrographic Organization is in charge of standardizing the names.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The IHO proposes names which world nations may or may not use.

Such is the case with the "Southern Ocean" around Antarctica since the early 2000s, which is randomly recognized & not recognized by world nations.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It still requires Congress to pass legislation. I think they would have to leave the organization entirely or amend the resolution to join it and recognize it's naming convention. The executive order is illegal.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

I don't disagree.

But recent interpretation of the use of executive order is hurtling toward the president having near-monarch authority

So, until the reach of executive orders gets reigned in... here we are.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Actually very little of the gilf falls into international waters

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

gilf

I've heard of MILFs... but i've only seen GILFs in Japan. That's not the geography we're discussing here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

A line joining Cape Catoche Light (21°37′N 87°04′W) with the Light on Cape San Antonio in Cuba, through this island to the meridian of 83°W and to the Northward along this meridian to the latitude of the South point of the Dry Tortugas (24°35'N), along this parallel Eastward to Rebecca Shoal (82°35'W) thence through the shoals and Florida Keys to the mainland at the eastern end of Florida Bay and all the narrow waters between the Dry Tortugas and the mainland being considered to be within the Gulf.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Biden outlawed oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico. Trump used executive order to rename it so the Gulf of Mexico “doesn’t exist”.

I'd be very surprised if all laws/treaties cease to exist if you just rename the "counterparty"/location. Declare Mexico to be named South Texas, and laws no longer apply there?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Probably true.

But until a court actually steps up to say it, it's the Wild West out there. And as soon as this gets shot down, another executive order will get wedged back in there to keep the rigs drilling.

EDIT: Apparently the naming had nothing to do with drilling. The drilling ban was already specifically reversed in a different executive order that reversed several Biden EOs

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

International bodies of water tend to be named by... International governing bodies.

That said, Google's choices about which country to rely on has... Some real-world ramifications. Like the very... shall we say, "open to interpretation" border between India and Pakistan. Or, China and India's border.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

@ubergeek @ricdeh Are we far off minor skirmishes and war-ettes over what big G names various places?