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Didn't know about sup
A big downside to fediverse messaging is that it isn't secure, and so we're warned when using it. Would anyone have more details on why we might use this over a more private messenger?
I wouldn’t hold your breath. He’s been promising it for a while, but nothing has come to fruition. I don’t blame him one single bit though, he is a single dev working on all these awesome projects and I just wish he’d be a little more realistic with how many projects he can actually keep up in the air.
I feel something as important and critical as an E2EE messenger would need someone watching it round the clock- it’s not a sort of release and forget thing is it
yeah, and instead of doing that he makes sure to remain the single dev and paints himself as the second coming of Steve Jobs.
Yeah, no, not at all. I'd feel intensely uncomfortable using Sup for anything when something like Signal exists. The network effect issue is the exact same on both platforms, so why am I going to take the most trusted communication application and protocol in the world and choose Sup which is the work of a single dev with no obvious background in cybersec, let alone the kind of math necessary to properly understand encryption?
I guess thats what the Kickstarter is for. Also, don't forget that the benefit of sup might be communication across all fediverse platforms, which means that as long as you have a single account in the fediverse, you can talk to all other accounts. Quite a bigger network than Signal, which is only a single platform.
The Fediverse also includes Element/Matrix which doesn't use the ActivityPub protocol and it's end to end encrypted.
Edit: other decentralized apps are SimpleX and DeltaChat, very cool apps
Matrix and Element?
Exactly. Does what Signal does, but federates as well.
Yeah I'd rather the Matrix/Element people got that funding. They need it.
Sup is a bad idea and I am not really convinced about Loops in its current form either, but the Pixelfed dev has done a lot of good work otherwise on various Fediverse projects so I think this Kickstarter deserves support.
It's supposed to be e2ee so it should be another more private messenger.
Interesting ok, I hope the donations take off because it felt like the team was spreading itself too thin working on all three things at once