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[–] [email protected] 132 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Circle jerking about China is as ridiculous as circle jerking about the US. We've been here before with US vs USSR, but this time everyone has a megaphone and an IQ that can be measured with a ruler.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I mean isn't this more "circle jerking " about dismantling state propaganda? Interacting with those you were told are your enemy?

Besides, people should always celebrate the positives, and look towards them as something that is possible in their country too.

And as an fyi: when we were here before, the workers revolution in Russia was new. The achievements were so profound that workers in North America began demanding similar concessions from our governments. There was a real threat of overthrowing the existing power structures. And what happened? Weekends, literacy, healthcare, just generally improved living conditions. To dismiss cultural exchange as circle jerking is to ignore history and the power that comes with knowing things are better elsewhere, and that you can have that too.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago
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[–] [email protected] 56 points 5 days ago (25 children)

You keep on coping there little buddy. What's happening is that regular people from both countries are now talking directly to each other, and finding out what life is actually like.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 days ago

Niether Moscow or Washington, but somehow Washington actually very-intelligent

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If what you're trying to get at is that whereas it is very important to unlearn the lies and exaggerations one was told about a country, that people also need to avoid replacing these lies with an overly simplistic and uncritical understanding of that same country, and that the current social media landscape makes it very difficult for many people to have the necessary nuance to avoid this pitfall... Then I would agree with you, but I'd also tell you that mentioning the eugenicists' favorite way of measuring "intelligence" is a very bad way of phrasing this idea, and that your standards of what counts as "circle-jerking" about a country are probably not nearly as inviting of nuance as you'd think.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

...mentioning the eugenicists' favorite way of measuring "intelligence" is a very bad way of phrasing this idea...

100% agree. The IQ thing is a tired and lazy joke. I need to work on a replacement for that old jab.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Sorry for being pedantic, but those foldable work rulers are exactly 2 m long (at least in MetricLandia), which is, incidentally, the span of IQ values (0-200).

So yeah, it literally can be mapped one-to-one to a (common type of) ruler.

A photo of an IQ ruler

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (3 children)

This is a common ruler where you live?

In my country we have rulers with 12 in/ ~30cm as the most common. We also have "yardstick" which is more often a meter stick now. But no foldable rulers.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

200cm, the american one is up to 80 inches 😁

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (23 children)

Wow those sure are some thoughts you managed to have. Big boys and girl and gems usually like to talk to each other and listen. You should try it. Use your words. What is your critique of the USSR and why do you perceive "realising we've been propagandised about china" as being akin to a circle of people masturbating?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Make a point you verbose idiot. You said literally nothing of enough substance to know what's in your little rat brain.

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