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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (6 children)

So... A handful of articles about individuals in Ukraine, a march of 300 nazi sympathizers, actions of a reported terrorist organization, and an article that states the following:

Ever since Ukraine's February revolution, the Kremlin has characterised the new leaders in Kiev as a "fascist junta" made up of neo-Nazis and anti-Semites, set on persecuting, if not eradicating, the Russian-speaking population. This is demonstrably false. Far-right parties failed to pass a 5% barrier to enter parliament

You just wasted a lot of my time... Many countries have idiots, my own has plenty of jackasses who could be called Nazi sympathizers. That doesn't mean the country is run by Nazis, and to claim such is very obviously propaganda. I wonder if you would be so willing to generalize a whole nation and its government if the rubberband was on the other claw?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Weird way to say articles about nazis having brigades and having close ties to the government. Many countries have idiots, but not many countries have open fascists int their military and government. Sorry I took your valuable time away from sniffing glue there. This clearly was too complex a topic for you to have a discussion on.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Lol, many countries do have open fascists in their military and government, Russia and the United States among them. Funny thing about folks who are willing to kill for their country, they are often ultra nationalists. A couple of the articles I sent you clearly demonstrate this in regards to Russia.

Regardless, you never even came close to supporting the claim "Ukraine is run by Nazis". Worse for your point still, one of your sources stated clearly that said claim is demonstrably not true.

And while fascists and Nazis should be called out and shutdown on every level in every country, including Ukraine, exaggerating the extent to which these ideologies have infiltrated a government to justify war is blatantly propaganda and evil.

I'll take your personal attacks on me as you admitting you overstated the strength of your "evidence". Next time someone makes a clear cut argument like "Ukraine is run by Nazis", don't provide evidence that literally says that's not the case and then pretend like it supports the claim. That's not "too complex to understand", that's just lying.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah bro, the country whose primary source of national pride is still turning back the tide of Nazism at the enormous sacrifice of over 25 million people. They for sure got a whole Nazi batallion, statues for Nazis and national holidays for Nazis, Ukraine is just a normal liberal country that way.

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