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I keep forgetting how nasty they look.. I'm glad I don't have to see these on European roads. Not yet, at least.
I'm pretty sure the EU banned them on the basis that they are death traps for their drivers, other road uses, and pedestrians alike.
It’s a trip seeing them around. Somehow they look even worse in person.
When I first saw one pass by me in reality, my first reaction was "jesus". And the colors I've seen on display (a Tesla store is nearby), wtf? Not that a good color would help a lot, it still looks very wrong.
I see way too many around here and people have taken to putting wraps on it. I love seen one that tries to make it look like the Warthog from Halo.
Something about pigs and lipstick...
I don't really care what they look like. If any truck actually could meet the promises these made, I'd buy the shit out of them:
-All electric
-Sophisticated sensor suite to improve operational safety
-Working performance comparable to F150
-low maintenance
-Can be used as home power backup
-not a Deathtrap
-not a Killing machine
It hits the electric points, but that's it. It's a bad truck. It doesn't fulfill any of the "smart" promises. Death trap killing machines in constant recall that can't handle rain... Let alone do work.
The aesthetic doesn't even make my list of complaints. It's like the whole industry has been trying to make trucks as shitty as possible for like 30 years. Give me a '94 ranger electric conversion kit and it's game fucking over cyber truck.
So what about the F150 Lightning doesn’t meet that? It actually offers whole house backup which is something that caught my attention
Not in love with the "big boy" from factor but when I believe they're going to enter "long term support" territory I absolutely would be interested.
I'm definitely a fan of the Lightning, but it's a huge truck, similar to a Raptor in length. It wouldn't fit in my driveway. They need an EV Mavick or Ranger. (I've heard rumors of a Ranger PHEV, which could be a game changer for EV towing)
Yeah he just mentioned “F150 performance” and it’s literally an F150. That’s what prompted my question.
It’ll be great to see them start coming out with smaller truck sized EVs.
Doesn't the electric F-150 meet all those demands?
I can't get one as they are not sold here but from the specs they look like exactly what you'd want. I assume since you mentioned it you can buy them where you are.
How can it be a death trap when it is only found on flat beds?
I doubt they’ll ever come to Europe. They don’t meet even the most basic crash safety standards. These things are designed to annihilate pedestrians, not to try to reduce harm.
Well that's just incorrect.
We actually have no idea what crash safety standards they meet because Tesla hasn't submitted them for any testing at all, and as we all know from Elon's new BFF, if you don't test for it, you won't have to worry about it.
They did publish a video of a crash test, but I think Tesla did it themselves and didn't publish any data, just a "comparison video" with an F150 Lightning.
It didn't look great... A lot of people were pointing out how tiny the crumple zone is, and the stop seemed more violent than most vehicles.
I'm from Europe and I already met one in my hometown. The other day, it even damaged scaffolding on the Powder Gate in Prague, while it was, hilariously, riding on the bed of a tow truck.
Edit: The individual approval itself is already highly controversial: https://www.wired.com/story/a-rubberized-cybertruck-is-ploughing-through-european-pedestrian-safety-rules/
They look like they have been on the streets for 10 years. Turns out stainless steel isn't all that stainless.