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[–] [email protected] 192 points 1 month ago (35 children)

I think given the current political situation this is the right call. No one knows what the Russian government might compel otherwise innocent devs to do.

That said, we (and I mean society, not any particular individual) should be mindful that we don’t slip into bigotry.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 month ago (14 children)

I’ve worked side by side with RU devs who were both personable and damned competent. Never were their tech skills in doubt, and I retain quite a bit of respect for those individuals.

I’d not do the same today explicitly because of the political and compliance implications. It’s unfortunate, but necessary.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

i wish there was more we could do to help russians topple their dictatorship

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago

Necessary for what?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Linux Fundarion is based in America. It needs to follow its rules and politics. I guess a lot of things will happen after this. As something so important for open technology like It , should be based in a more open, mor asvanced in laws and neutral territory.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Linus is from Finland. Not hard to remember reasons for aversion to Russian propaganda for anyone raised near it.

Blanketing the Linux Foundation as American based kind of sounds like you're a Russian troll.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Heheheh paranoia fue. And no, just read on internet where is based. California so be precise

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Linus lives in Oregon

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is hardly the first time the core Linux code stack has been forked and independently developed. Seems like this is going to invite a Russia-specific development environment that just pulls in updates from the main branch and adds in Russia-internal development (which will likely then be copied by non-Russians and backloaded into the core Linux stack under someone else's name, because why waste good dev work?)

But the argument appears to be anyone with a Russian-sounding name is getting removed from the core development team, until they can prove to the American team that they aren't... spooks, I guess? Also

The driver code to which the dropped maintainers contributed remains in place.

So this isn't such a high security risk that the code is being pulled (presumably because its been vetted and appears beyond repute). This is purely a CYA move to eliminate veterans on the team because they were forthright about their identities.

should be based in a more open, mor asvanced in laws and neutral territory.

Its not clear how a policy of booting people based on their surnames accomplishes this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I could mention all the forks that Linux currently has, please.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn’t most of Linux open source?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

All of it is. But its still possible to sneak backdoors into Foss software (though magnitudes harder). See xz.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Not gonna lie, this is kinda a refutation of the whole open source model. I was led to believe that it shouldn't matter who writes the code, as long the code is able to be interrogated/corrected.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Removing people from CREDITS looks like someone should have been mindful before acting.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

They were removed from MAINTAINERS, which is what identifies the people responsible for maintaining a piece of code, a subsystem of Linux, not the credits, which is encoded in the git commit history.

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