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[–] [email protected] 95 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Pretty much for form I suppose, there are other ways to get those drivers.

I've been in a few online games with RU players and it struck me as so weird to be playing a game with someone from a nation we are basically at war with. Major WWI Xmas football vibes.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I feel that many Russians are against Putler's regime, but are (rightfully so) too afraid to speak up.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How is what he said wrong? 25% is "many Russians".

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

Ahh yes, polling in a country where saying the wrong thing gets you locked up. Very useful /s

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (4 children)

How would that number change if all those people had access to independent reporting?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago (2 children)

There's an old joke about agents from the CIA and KGB sharing a drink at a pub in Berlin.

"I have to admit, I'm always so impressed by Soviet propaganda. You really know how to get people worked up," the CIA agent says.

"Thank you," the KGB says. "We do our best but truly, it's nothing compared to American propaganda. Your people believe everything your state media tells them."

The CIA agent drops his drink in shock and disgust. "Thank you friend, but you must be confused... There's no propaganda in America."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Joke is going over my head can you explain?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

CIA agent 'drinks the kool-aid'

Cold-war era joke, pre-suppose all us media is 'State' media

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

That is a truly excellent joke. I will remember that

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

The Trumpublicans in the U.S. have access to independent reporting, yet they choose instead to limit themselves to lies that make them feel like they're better than everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Maybe it would change but Russian culture is still Russian culture.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Seriously, you can't unshit a pool.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

I don't have access to it, but allegedly on VK which is the Russian knockoff of Facebook, they also have similar numbers of a majority in favor of destroying Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I mean given that you get arrested for a showing a blank piece of paper and sent to prison/gulag... Do you really think that de-annonymised people would put their opinions forward?

But also in the west where we don't have quite such a police state, we still do have many people who vote against their interests until their own interests are being affected...

Moral of the story... Humans suck

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Humans suck

Conservatives suck. The normal people are actually pretty cool.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

In favor of what? They aren't being told the truth about anything. They're in favor of an imaginary war for imaginary reasons.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

That may be true. But I tend to believe factual journalism over a random internet person's conjecture that you seem to be sure of for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

Yikes. Sucks to live there. Maybe they should do something about it?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

It’s not that they’re for or against. They don’t care.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I feel that many Russians are against Putler’s regime

Well thats not what any polls anywhere say. Where did you get that from? Reminds me of this saying: "Wish into one hand and shit into the other and see which one gets full first."

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 days ago

Nah, propaganda is a hell of a drug

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

there are other ways to get those drivers.

Not only will they have back doors, but they'll be screening for shittier updates and working on hacks that liberate the hardware from proprietary software updates.

Beginning to feel like the good old Internet Wild West over on the eastern internet.