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In China, It’s Already Cheaper to Buy EVs Than Gasoline Cars::undefined

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 year ago (5 children)

More than 80 percent of new cars sold in Norway now are EVs.

Which also means that all the talk in the US about EVs not being reliable in cold-weather states is just pure crap from politicians trying to protect oil and the gasoline car industry.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yup. Car and Driver Debunks Cold Weather EV Myts at most you get a 20% decrease in the efficiency of your charge. And EVs are actually better at staying warm while idle/off.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

20% is huge on cheaper (i.e not horribly expensive) EV 's when you'll already be on the edge of your range for daily use. Luckily though, most people don't live in northern latitudes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It depends on a number of factors: outdoor temperature, the model of car, whether climate control is used. At temperatures of an average January daytime high where I live, using climate control, range can decrease by 40% and anecdotally my model is even higher.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

They're reliable. They just expend more energy in winter time so you get worse range.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

And over 90% if you count PHEVs too. Norway demonstrates electric vehicles are completely viable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who are the manufacturers building these cars? I'm curious how many are the very same manufacturers we have in the US and where the disparity occurs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

9/10 of the top EVs are also sold in the United States. The only outlier is the Skoda which is basically a Volkswagen.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

No one says they are unreliable. Thier range is just reduced in extreme temperatures. That's a much bigger problem foe the US than it is foe Norway.