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A disaster using camera only for autopilot? Tesla FSD supervised has been successfully operating in consumer vehicles using cameras only for a couple years now. FSD software for the last several months has been performing phenomenally. If you take a ride in one it’s not hard at all to see how it could operate fully autonomously even within the next year.
A disaster for steering-less, unsupervised autopilot car. There's a difference.
I've have faith before when CGP Grey simp so much on Tesla autopilot several years ago, but that faith waned so hard after several mishap and death. Yes, it's gonna be fully autopilot like before, but it would need to be supervised as always.
In the case of steering-less tesla, there's no backup driver to prevent this.
Sure, I hear you, you’ve lost faith. Sounds like this happened over years which is understandable given the prolonged timelines and failed promises. What makes you think that the system will always need to be supervised? Any new technology can experience hurdles, but can you elaborate on
? Things may happen once in a while for a completely new technology involving vehicles and driving, but for the long term it is a necessary step to develop something that can save countless more lives. Chances are, you are either currently on, or have tried a drug or medication that has lead to numerous deaths and permanent disability during its workup and development. Did you lose faith in medicine and avoid it, or did you take the drug despite the incredibly rare risk of death?
It seems that your attitude about the current situation was formed years ago. Definitely worth a second look and seeing for yourself, as the supervising driver, if you are not yet aware of the improvement and the current state of the software.
Do you know how villainous that sounds?
"some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice i'm willing to make."
Yeah, you sounds like a villain from VHS copy of Shrek.
What makes you think a system doesn't need to be supervised? What datacenter doesn't have people readily available to make change and fix bug? What autonomous factory doesn't have people readily available to stop the system and jump in to fix fatal error? What autonomous train system doesn't have failsafe and purposefully build infrastructure to support the automation to be as safe as possible?
What makes you think Tesla done something so good, so brilliant that's better than those enclosed, sandboxed environment, that it doesn't need lidar as a failsafe? What gives Tesla special privilege to throw safety out of the window because of Melon Husk's ego?
If you so desperately trying to save life, here's some suggestion.
Haha, okay so this is about emotion and your predisposition to hate Elon Musk as well as your fear of new technology.
I guess we are not actually participating in conversation anymore so I will bow out.
Good luck my safety champion. Go drive manual and ensure the world always has a person watching, because people don’t get distracted…right?
Ohh so you can't even give me a reason why i should trust something without safety rail, only talk about how safe it is right now, supervised, but didn't elaborate on why steering-less, unsupervised system without redundant safety feature like having a lidar is okay. And i'm the emotional one and not participating. Sure bud.
What are you on about? 🤨 You talk about the topic as if everyone driving a Tesla or Melon Husk have the intention to share the technology with every car maker.
It's interesting to see someone so upset that someone consider safety when driving a 5,000+ lb vehicle.
Usually, people who say "this is about emotion" in a debate or argument are the ones acting fully on their emotions. Oh no, someone is emotional about not wanting to get killed by a tech bro texting or sleeping while their car poorly "drives" them! The horror!
"successfully"
Last time I drove one and tried it, it tried to ram me into the next lane over on a medium curve. It's not great.