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Is it just me or do all search engines feel soooo bad these days? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I suspect that this is the direct result of AI generated content just overwhelming any real content.

I tried ddg, google, bing, quant, and none of them really help me find information I want these days.

Perplexity seems to work but I don't like the idea of AI giving me "facts" since they are mostly based on other AI posts

ETA: someone suggested SearXNG and after using it a bit it seems to be much better compared to ddg and the rest.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because Kagi mostly just calls to google api and do a little filtering on the results, to remove ads, and maybe mix some results around with other search engine apis.

I can get the same results with whoogle, self hosted and not adding another "everything is a subscription" to my wallet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, that isn't how it works by any stretch of the imagination. Kagi has its own search index.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Last time I checked they admitted just being a metasearch engine. That their own search index was unusable. Which would be reasonable as a reliable proper search index is incredibly expensive.

I just checked their website, I don't find references to their only using their own search engine. In fact they seems to be switched development to AI tools (that I would bet that they are just chatgpt API wrappers).

They also stated having like 20.000 customers. With that money and based on California there's no way they have the ability to do any core development besides API wrapping other commercial services.

Some people asked for source: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.html

Fron their own web:

Our search results also include anonymized API calls to all major search result providers worldwide,

They try to downplay it as their whole bussiness model is "we are not google search" though it's pretty obvious that they don't have the resources to create a functional search index of the whole web. Most of their results are filtered metasearch and that can be self host without paying a subscription.