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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I blocked my two TVs from phoning home via my pihole. They are the two noisiest devices on my network, by leaps and bounds.

On a day of heavy usage, my phone and desktop may get ~2000 blocked requests combined. That’s high, but not unheard of. It just means I did a lot of browsing, with a lot of blocked ad requests. My TVs average somewhere around 7500 blocked requests per day, on days that I haven’t even turned them on. That’s an attempt to phone home every ~12 seconds. And it is much worse on days that I actually use them.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

To be clear though, that's largely because it is just repeating the same request over and over as it times out and retries. They're a lot less noisy when they actually connect successfully, though it is still undesirable for them to do so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Is it encrypted?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I got a 42" 4k computer monitor instead

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

How many times the cost of a comparably-sized Trojan TV did that run you?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

1.2x

I also use it as a computer monitor though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Maybe i'm stupid, but why would a TV even do that? All it's know is what you're watching today, right? How is that information useful? If you're living with other people, the TV couldn't even know who's watching, that would make the data useless.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Data mining. They know what you watch, when you don't and any other habits you have.

If you have a microphone on your remote or tv, then they also send that data over.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Knowing the distribution of what entire households watch is very useful. It's not about spying on you personally.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

And what other devices are on the network, and what they're chattering about

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

..seems rather personal to me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It is also about spying on you personally, to build targeted advertising profiles.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Jesus dude, what brand TV do you have?

My LG issues a few hundred blocked requests throughout the day with heavy usage. I've never seen it wake up and phone home (my Nintendo Switch does it every hour for some stupid reason)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

One is a Samsung, and the other is a Roku. The Roku is a little bit noisier, but not by much.