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A federated github might solve this right?
Nope.
C&Ds and legal threats still go to a person who isn't going to go to jail or have their wages garnished by Mario until the end of their days.
At best you have a single gitlab instance running in a country that is known to not cooperate with those kinds of demands. But... just ask the various torrent sites how well that works after actively pissing off an army of lawyers who don't mind slipping a hosting company a couple hundred bucks to get the identity and address of the person paying for that.
Hosting a git instance with Njala?
Plenty of hosts and providers over the years have claimed to be super privacy oriented and blah blah blah. Once they get a legal request, they roll over. Because they aren't going to prison for the customer anymore than they are going to prison for you.
kyun.host is mullvad-like insofar as your account is identified by a random account ID and they dont necessarily have an email etc on you (you can provide one so they can contact you if you want but that's optional). Have not used their services myself but I'm aware of them.
Hosting costs money. Theoretically (some) cryptocurrency can obfuscate that but... there is a reason graph problems got really popular again for a little bit.
But domain names also cost money. They also need to be registered to a person/company.
That is why a lot of torrent sites end up getting their domain stolen.
Also, all of this ignores the actual developers. But that is par for the course when it comes to discussing liability with open source projects.
I am not super knowledgeable about crypto but I thought Monero was untraceable? All the privacy-focused services I've seen allow you to pay by Monero. A few accept cash by envelope too.
The problem is that people tend to mistake being private to being above the law. You can argue against what law enforcement decides is a crime, but that matters little to service and providers and it's a another type of discussion
Yeah. It is why I really like that Proton basically say "We will turn on you in an instant if we get a legal order. But here is what we'll actually turn over and here is how you can minimize your vulnerability to that.
No, but a gitea/forgejo instance as a hidden service might.
One of yuzu's forks went that path: http://vub63vv26q6v27xzv2dtcd25xumubshogm67yrpaz2rculqxs7jlfqad.onion/torzu-emu/torzu
Well there goes that one for most people
they don't have to be the ones publishing releases
They should just release torrents of the releases and that way even if there is a takedown the community keeps seeding.