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The onus isn’t on them to cater to everyone. If it can’t be used using Linux, deal with it like a grown up and find something else to do.
But you’re not going to justify DDoS attacking a company because you don’t like that you’re excluded from their product.
These people need to grow the fuck up. The real world doesn’t give a shit about what they think they’re owed- which is nothing by the way.
This shit just makes me hate the arrogance of Linux users that much more.
Oh, and that you all think that downvotes are relevant to a discussion shows your immaturity on the topic. My opinion isn’t popular because it’s nuanced. And everyone within and outside of lemmy know damn well that this platform hates anything that doesn’t paint in the colors of black or white. So… it’s expected to be downvoted. If I posted this anywhere else- it’s be a mature discussion.
Gazillions of people have been playing on Linux, in particular on the Steam Deck, for ages. Those are paying customers. They pulled the plug on that without warning and without need, technical or otherwise, people are pissed. Depending on jurisdiction, Rockstar might be in for at least refunds.
I don't condone ddos'ing either and what I also don't condone is you saying "oh the only reason people are pissed is because they can't cheat". Now that is, if I'm charitable, ignorant, and allthewhile you have the gall to accuse others of arrogance. Nuanced my ass to be that you'd first have to acknowledge basic contextual facts about the matter. Getting downvoted is also not "the ignorant sheeple not understanding your brilliance". Get your head out of your arse and look in the mirror.
I don’t give a fuck what their reason is. Whether it’s cheating or the plug was pulled on them.
There’s no reason to act like fucking spoiled little entitled children. No one involved in this childish shit is a victim.
Stop excusing this bullshit.
Is there, in your mind, any situation in which any consumer can ever legitimately complain about the practices of any business, or is it all whining?
See? There is a huge failure of comprehension here as you have mistaken a DDoS attack with a “legitimate complaint.”
They are NOT the same thing. And I won’t entertain a discussion where I have to suspend belief to assume they are.
You went far beyond "ddos'ers are silly boogers", which I agreed with, but delegitimised critique of Rockstar in general: You told Linux gamers to stop playing: "Find something else to do". Don't motte and bailey now.
Your words, they get interpreted. In specific contexts. Failing to acknowledge that those contexts can differ from whatever the context is in the privacy of your own mind is a failure of both theory of mind and communication on your part and, going out on half a limb here, probably the reason why everyone around you seems so hostile. Read the room. Don't fall into the trap of thinking that you are right because what you say is met with hostility, rather, work towards having what you think is right accepted with gratitude. For starters, don't go on tirades -- which starting an argument with "butthurt little pussy" definitely is no matter how correct your assessment of the situation may or may not be. Develop tact.
Again- I don’t fucking care what the reason is. If they were butthurt about an anticheat application, OR Linux users that are denied the game now-
If they are doing DDoS attacks, they’re childish little entitled pussies.
End of story. I meant what I said.
Ok I'll bite: You disapprove of the method of protest they chose, but how can you be sure of their underlying emotional/rational motives? As analogy, consider workers: They have the option to protest in front of the HQ, or they have the option to strike, and keep scabs out. Would you say that workers choosing the latter are "childish little entitled pussies", after all, that's a denial of service attack, or would you say that it is possible, in at least principle, that those kinds of attacks represent a well-considered strategic choice?
If such rationale is possible, how can you be sure that whoever launched the DDOS did act out of childish emotion, instead of cold-blooded calculation? You, we, can still disapprove of the use of violence in this case (because, say, proportionality) but that's a consideration orthogonal as to whether we're talking about adult or puerile behaviour.
That all being said, can you now understand why leading with that kind of language might not get the best reaction, and is sub-optimal when it comes to you expressing your condemnation of DDOS attacks, or convincing anyone else of that stance. It lacks consideration.
Again- I don’t fucking care what the reason is. If they were butthurt about an anticheat application, OR Linux users that are denied the game now- If they are doing DDoS attacks, they’re childish little entitled pussies. End of story.
I meant what I said. Stop trying to justify it.
Again: But what if it isn't butthurt, but actual strategic consideration. You're refusing to consider people having any motive but that which you assume them to have at first impression, presumably the one out of which you would go for such a mode of action. But other people aren't you, and very well might choose their actions based on completely different principles. Who are you to tell them that they are wrong? "But muh they're butthurt" is not an answer to that question, you're only restating your premise.
DDoS attacks are done by butthurt entitled children.
I’m done discussing this.
Done discussing? You didn't even start.
Ahh. So that’s how trolling works now? You pop into a discussion, act like an idiot to get someone to repeat themselves over and over, and when they give up trying, you tell them they shouldn’t have bothered voicing their opinion if they don’t want to continue enabling yours shit?
Yeah. I’m blocking you now.
I didn't jump into anything I started the discussion. You did not participate, and still aren't. Re-stating your premise is not an argument, you could've left it at "dude IDGAF what you say get off my back" from the start.