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Do you have a criteria for what qualifies as block-worthy offence or are you just doing it when you feel like it?

Bonus question: how long is your block list?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My blocklist is 30~40 users long. [For reference, my blocklist in Reddit reached 400 or so.]

To keep it short, I typically block people who, egregious or consistently:

  • show lack of reasoning, even if I agree with the conclusion
  • misrepresent what others say
  • take things off context to judge them, even if I agree with the judgement
  • vomit lots of "hard" certainty on things that they cannot reasonably know (e.g. the others' emotional states over the internet)
  • engage in passive aggressiveness (note that I tolerate some clear hostility, just not pass-aggro)
  • show clear signs of sealioning (e.g. "I don't understand" + misrepresentation of what someone else said)
  • tell others shit like "trust me" = "I expect you to be a gullible piece of rubbish"

Note that "egregious or consistently" are key words here. Like, I'm not going out of my way to block someone out of a brainfart; this is not some sort of petty revenge, it's just removing from my sight people who I believe to not contribute with my overall Lemmy experience. I also don't take issue when people block me, for whatever reason they might have.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I'll reply to myself to avoid editing the above. The other user made me realise that what I said about pass-aggro is unclear - since the expression is used with multiple meanings.

In this specific context, by passive aggressiveness, I mean "an utterance showing politeness as a disguise for rudeness".

I'll give you guys an example. Imagine that Alice says "I saw a potato tree today". And Bob replies to Alice one of the following:

  1. "Potatoes do not grow on trees."
  2. "Potato tree? Are you braindead or what?"
  3. "Yeah sure, and I saw some unicorns today. Because you know, potatoes totally grow on trees, right?"
  4. "Oh dear perhaps you're a bit confused, so let me enlighten you. Potatoes do not grow on trees. I understand that this might be a bit too complex for you to understand, but put on some effort, okay?"

The first three are not pass-aggro. #1 is simply dry (no attempt at politeness or rudeness); #2 is simply rude (I'm typically OK with that within limits). #3 uses irony and sarcasm in such an obvious way that it comes off as simply rude, there's no attempt to use the irony to disguise the insult. Only #4 is pass-aggro, as it calls Alice stupid and lazy in a disguised way.

I tend to block people who do this because they rub me off the wrong way - it shows a lack of dignity to be upfront that you don't see in plain rudeness.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sealioning is a made up term by those too lazy to explain a concept and looking to antagonise others because they "cannot possibly be unaware of X fact that I care so much about".

Funnily enough saying someone is sealioning falls within the passive-aggressive behaviour you seem to despise so much.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Sealioning is the discussion equivalent of a DoS (denial of service) attack. In both, the content of the reply is irrelevant; the goal is to flood the person/machine with multiple requests, until they reach a limit and ~~stop dropping~~ drop the requests altogether.

And while the concept has some problems because it handles some esoteric babble called "intentions" (see: "goal"), it's still useful when you focus on the behaviour instead.

Funnily enough saying someone is sealioning falls within the passive-aggressive behaviour you seem to despise so much.

Pass-aggro is about tone, not content. You can state something like "you're sealioning" in a passive aggressive way, or a rude way, or under a bald-on record, so goes on.

[Edit reason: phrasing.]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sealioning is the discussion equivalent of a DoS (denial of service) attack. In both, the content of the reply is irrelevant; the goal is to flood the person/machine with multiple requests, until they reach a limit and stop dropping the requests altogether.

Thank you for putting it this way. This clarifies some things for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You made me notice a revision error in my own comment ("stop dropping" is supposed to be simply "drop"). I'm glad that the meaning is still retrievable though, due to the analogy.

I wasn't the one who created the analogy, by the way, but it's damn useful/didactic. Specially because there's also a sealioning equivalent of DDoS, far more effective than when done by a single entity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I knew what you meant. It is damn useful, especially for understanding peoples motives offline too. Saving the analogy to my brain for later use.