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I'm just a newb when it comes to high grade keyboards, but these things look wild, and I kind of want to try one.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (6 children)

This is what I use every day

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's a columnar stagger, not ortholinear.

I was kinda disappointed that this article didn't explain columnar stagger.

I daily drive an iris by keebio.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Is that your own layout, or is it a scheme like QWERTY or DVORAK that I haven't heard about?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Colemak is an alternative keyboard created by Shai Coleman, named as a portmanteau of Dvorak and Coleman. Its design goals consist of easy transition from QWERTY due to repositioning only 17 letter keys. Additionally the AZXCV shortcuts are in the same location perhaps allowing an easier time switching from QWERTY.

It also claims greater efficiency than Dvorak. Furthermore it places complete emphasis on the home-row: the ten most-common characters in English are on the ten home-row keys.

Source: Wikipedia

I type in dvorak and actually love it. It just feels comfortable when I type.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Fellow Dvorak user here. Can't recommend it enough.

In one of my classes at the beginning of my doctoral studies we talked about parth dependency, and QWERTY was used as an example. All studies showed that even experienced typists would increase their typing speed within just a few days of switching, and that it's just a superior set-up. But because of path dependency we all write QWERTY.

I changed my layout the same day and I haven't looked back. If you want to start messing around with your keyboard and you use it for typing, switching to Dvorak should be the obvious first step. Colemak is a compromise solution that is still a lot better than QWERTY and probably quicker to learn.

No need to get a new keyboard. Dvorak is designed around touch typing, you won't be looking at the keyboard anyway.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Oh my gosh, there's a whole two of us! 🥲

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

just to chime in on alternative keyboard layouts:

I'm german and can't recommend the neo2 family of layouts enough.
I currently am using the "noted" layout and it feels absolutely amazing.

The different layer approach makes it easy to write all the symbols for programming I need, or if you are a writer, all the »correct« „quotation“ marks.
there's even support for all the greek letters used in math equations: ℤℵ×∀ℂΣ∫∃∇ℕℝ∂ΛΦΨ

You can learn more about the layout here (site is in german):
https://www.neo-layout.org/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Only 17 letters that's not half is it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It's centered around Colemak but of course there is no standard for the extra thumb and pinky keys. I have enter, right shift, and FN on the right thumb, then spacebar, ctrl, and FN2 on the left thumb. FN2 makes the left side into a number pad.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is something I would consider using. I've had issues in the past with tendonitis and I don't want that issue to get worse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Moving away from qwerty to colemak-dh did more for my tendonitis than the keyboard itself. Having both an ortho linear / columnar stagger keyboard and a better layout is the end goal though. But the layout makes the biggest impact.

Then the next biggest impact will be getting a keyboard with a thumb cluster so you can do more with your thumb in a comfy position rather than your pinkies stretched out to the edges of the keyboard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Ergodox makes keyboards like this. Don't know if they sell them in Colemak key position like this one, I know they do QWERTY. I've been meaning to get one myself for aaages, but I have too many other stupid things I spend my money on instead.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

My other keyboard is an Ergodox 76. All mechanical keyboards can have their firmware re-flashed to whatever key organization you want. Then you just move the key labels to the right places (optional)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

for keyboard shortcuts do they map with the key location or physically? for control + p (print page) would you press control + y or the actual p button?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

They work the same, Ctrl+P for print. The layout is programmed into the keyboard microcontroller; your computer never gets any information beyond which key you're pressing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Interesting, what layout is that,

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is that an ErgoDash? I use the same. Good for people who want a fuller keyboard layout.