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Are you talking about on a comment? This?
Because if I open your profile, there is no number next to your name.
If you want to eliminate the display of upvotes that's a completely different thing. Like why would we talk about resetting that yearly?
I'm not OP, of course. I think the point is that some people seem to really care about how many upvotes they get for a post (or comment) based upon the type of post they make. I get that it doesn't get accumulated against the user profile.
Internet points is the only/main explanation I can think of for the repeated low effort/value "questions" that people post. The "what was 'the incident' at your school?" one I moaned about yesterday is something I've seen posted many times to Lemmy, and is a good example.
If this were Reddit, we'd put it down to karma farming for an account that would eventually become a spam, scam or porn bot, or something like that. But I struggle to understand why it happens here.
That's the gist of my involvement in the topic, anyway.
Fair enough. I think there's a fair bit of everyone talking past each other. Yeah, I can see your point about chasing upvotes on posts. I mostly post whatever I'm going to post without regard to votes, but I do enjoy making a popular comment and when I get lots of downvotes I do a quick check if I'm the asshole (sometimes yes, sometimes no). I can see where you'd want to disincentivize low quality shit-posting for upvotes. I'm pretty sure I'd shit-post anyway, though.
But consider: sometimes funny content chains of everyone joking around release tension and provide a way to engage with a post when I don't have anything of value to say. Engagement is what drives social media. Am I going to comment if I get no engagement? A vote at least says someone saw it and I'm not shouting into the void. And if no one votes or comments my post, how do I know anyone has seen it at all?
If this place were nothing but high quality serious content, I feel like it would be closer to Wikipedia than Reddit. Of course, you're free to disagree if you find none of this persuasive. I say all that because OP invited folks to explain why they disagreed. I'm not trying to come across as an argumentative prick, I just feel like folks are using words that clearly mean different things to different people. Like I don't think you and OP are thinking of the same thing. I'm not even sure OP was talking about the same thing at the end as he was in the beginning.
Being able to quantify reach and count likes or upvotes or good stats has been a feature of social media forever. Mastodon doesn't have or display upvotes, you just get notified when a post is favorited. It works there. But I engage way less there. But what soaks to me might not speak to someone else.
Anyway, that's all. Thanks for the response.
I agree with a lot of what you've said, and am starting to think I may just be being cantankerous about something for no good reason.
I've no issue with shitposts nor trying to get All The Upvotes (nor, I guess, All The Downvotes) here. I think it's just that lazy and transparent "This is a real question?" type of post - repeated over and 'cking over - that makes my teeth itch for some reason. 😅
The web version screenshot you provided was interesting when compared to the Voyager mobile app view of a profile:
It's possible I was being lazy or stupid (they're not mutually exclusive) in misreading the Comment Count metric as something else, like "karma", rating, or whatever. It's definitely not that. Either way, you and others are right in saying there is no karma here (for that I apologise to all). I still have doubts whether the people doing the above kind of posts understand the - literal - pointlessness of doing it for any kind of account cred.
I dunno. Anyway, I've had a day to reflect on it, and I'm wrong. So it goes... 🙂
This is really why I come here. Real talk. Whether it's serious or funny, it's nice to be able to feel like I'm interacting with real people like we're just hanging out, challenging and affirming one another and appreciating different perspectives. You didn't have to agree with me, though I'm gratified we could come to an accord. Deep respect, my friend.
Likewise. I much prefer the sitting around the table and discussing differences approach to the alternatives.
Life's too short. 😊