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For me, it may be that the toilet paper roll needs to have the open end away from the wall. I don't want to reach under the roll to take a piece! That's ludicrous!

That or my recent addiction to correcting people when they use "less" when they should use "fewer"

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 4 months ago (11 children)
[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 months ago (5 children)

For me it's YYYY-MM-DD https://www.iso.org/iso-8601-date-and-time-format.html

Also, there is a special place for those people who keep making up new timestamps

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Plus slashes are more likely to be blocked by arbitrary character set validation, and fail. Dashes more clearly distinguish the segments and are more compatible

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Spacing of the letter and fewer clutter is also very good with dashes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

And don't work in filenames. But yes, files being in the same order when sorted lexicographic or chronologically makes me smile.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

This is probably the best format and I would concede without question. Cheers!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I have (minor) beef with ISO 8601. It's very wishy washy about fractional seconds. It's like "eh, idc if you use a period or a comma to separate them"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I sign papers with customers from all over the world, and if I get to sign first and need to add a date, I invariably go for YYYY-MM-DD from ISO-8601. If they go first it's most often illegible to readers without any cultural context.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I agree. Plus, if you are naming files in your computer, using YYYY-MM-DD will keep them ordered chronologically by default.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I’ll be honest, while YMD is best, I’ll take anything that isn’t MDY.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

MDY is just plain nuts, but has to be DMY for me, increasing length of time, left to right as that's the direction of reading (plus what I was taught!).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Ok that is a level of cursed I wasn't prepared for

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

It's the only way that makes sense to parse. Imagine if literally anything else worked with the minor amounts first.

This thing costs 25 cents and 3,000 dollars

The time is currently 45:9.

This program is v11.7.9 and the next release is v0.8.9

I don't like "mixed number" format, like 1/4 and 648,3. I'd much rather say "five hundredths, two tenths, six ones, four tens, 8 hundreds and 3 thousand"

I guess a lot less recipes would get overseasoned though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

how would you shorten it? MM/DD feels wrong, and DD/MM makes no sense if you wanted it to be YYYY/MM/DD

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

What you're saying makes s lot of sense, but how do you speak dates?

When did you start working your current job? It was in 2022, Aprill 11th

What's your anniversary date? We were married on 2012, September the 9th.

People don't talk that way, which is how writing them down got to be the MMDDYYYY format in the first place. Technically, it was MMDDYY exclusively until mid 1999.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

But why do people put the year last when speaking? It's no less arbitrary. We were just socialized to say it that way, so now it "sounds more natural," but it's not.

Also, speech doesn't dictate writing. Do British people say "11th April" out loud?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But everybody still writes addresses as person, street, place, country what is the reverse of the logical order with biggest geographical element first.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Address are written for humans.

For machines, the address line and postal code is the only important part, the rest is encoded in the postal code and can be left off.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Heretics like you deserve the Brazen Bull.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I might not like your opinion but I certainly love your puns, you may be spared.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Ngl, those are some good words to live by. Cheers!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Don't threaten me with a good time, baby

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

While we're at it, make every name start with the surname. I understand why the majority of countries/languages start names with the forename, but finding people in a list of names is just so much easier when they are naturally called Swift Taylor and DeVito Danny.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nah, that'd be the version of that without symbols, just straight digits.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

The symbols add a bit of chaos

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

YMDYYDMY

YOLO!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

DD\YYYY\MM. Yes, backslashes. Why? I'm a madman.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Good for computers and spreadsheets, bad for people in mundane use.

Most of the time I know what year I'm dealing with so it goes in the back. Putting the day first doesn't help until I know what month we mean, so the month goes first.

Nightmare for file names and stuff though.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I see you woke up and chose violence. Dueling pistols at dawn it is then

For me, it's actually much better for file name sorting - and just about everything else. It numerically orders items in a logical manner allowing for batch processing of large sets of data using wildcards or regex, but I understand that it may not fit everyone's usecase...which is why, it seems everyday, there's someone introducing a new date format