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dude complaining about apple being proprietary in 2024, when apple has built their entire business from day one by being the most draconian closed loop proprietary hardware/software model since personal computers were invented. i mean, sure, i get it's annoying bullshit, but you're literally getting what you signed up for when you decided apple was the way to go, lol. i hope this android/google action will lead to opening up the apple ecosystem as well, but i wouldn't use any of their bullshit if you paid me, i remember the days of the ibm clones, and apple telling us all to go fuck ourselves.
Who cares about what you or me like to use? The point is that Google is under fire for their closed system while Apple is far stricter. They should be the first to get forced to open up.
They already got forced in the EU
FWIW, Apple has 28% of the global market share compared to Google at 70%. By the numbers, one is far closer to being a monopoly than the other.
Since this is happening in a specific country, we need to look at the numbers from there. Not some average over the world. Obviously with most people being poor they are not going to have an iPhone.
Sidenote: those clones, and eventually the entire standard PC architecture we know and love today, were possible because IBM fucked up and used common, off the shelf components, with the only proprietary item being their BIOS, which was quickly reverse-engineered. It's not like IBM wanted to shower the world in third party PCs that weren't theirs. That's why they tried again to lock down the market with the PS/2, but failed to dislodge the PC.
In a different universe, we might all be using Acorn or Amiga today.
i member micro channelling lol
Well, I guess it’s time for a Halt and Catch Fire rewatch again.
Commodore’s management were way too incompetent for the Amiga to survive, unfortunately.
The ghost of Acorn kinda lives on, in our phones and smart toasters.
Sir, this is a Wendy’s…
As someone else who has never owned an Apple device, only watched other people using them. What the fuck are you on about?
Are you seriously complaining about people complaining that Google's main rival seems to be immune from the same punishments, despite the fact that they, as you have said, are the most draconian and locked down system? Do you not see why this might be a relevant problem that Apple is just immune to legal repercussions because "lmao they've always been evil 🙈"?
Dude complaining about a dude complaining about apple being proprietary in 2024, when apple has built their entire business from day one by being the most draconian closed loop proprietary hardware/software model since personal computers were invented........
You just made the same argument, but in an aggressively dumb way.
Everything you do to become a monopoly is legal (or at least should be - there are lots of illegal things you can do along the way but for discussion lets assume/pretend they don't do those things). However it is not legal to be a monopoly.
Just because you've built your company with the goal of being a monopoly, doesn't make it legal.
So if something is shitty, the solution would be to shut up about it and pray that the 40%+ of the world who buys the shitty thing suddenly has an epiphany that they've been buying shitty things? Excellent logic.
That's dillusional American-centric thinking. Apple only has a 28% market share globally while Android still dominates over 70%.
Ok... the off-the-cuff number was not the point in the least. The point is that MILLIONS of people happily use those shitty products and they're not going to just suddenly stop doing so.
But sure, all that matters here is that you despise americans.
Umm... I am an American, and never said anything about hating the place. I dislike the American attitude I encounter daily that everything happening here has more importance and everywhere else is irrelevant.
If I was really as "America centric" as you think I would've said 60%. I'm sorry if you think my meaningless stab in the dark to make a completely different point means that you think I don't care about the rest of the world. It doesn't.
Either way, you missed the point if all you're focused on is a random guess that wasn't even meant to be accurate. The fact that it was a round even number without a source is a clue that it was a guess.