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Stallman was right.
It's pronounced GNU Stallman.
I can't listen or look at this man anymore after seeing him scrape shit off his feet and eat it in front of a bunch of people. 🤢
He has went on record multiple times saying having sex with children (even within the family) or family pets is fine. Eating his foot gunk is the least of my issues with him.
That said, when it comes to warning about software, he was pretty bang-on.
How is it that you're so well-versed in all of Stallman's negative quotes (from over a decade ago), yet conveniently omitted the fact that he later retracted those statements?
Those issues are ones that it's hard to just walk back with a mea culpa, especially when the apology comes precisely when it starts to impact your career.
Stallman spends decades publicly-championing adult-child sexual relations on his personal blog and using his work email address.
Stallman later comes under fire for strange comments about Epstein's underage girls/clients. Some people say he should step down, as his poor image jeopardises the effectiveness of the FSF.
2 days later, Stallman has a sudden change of heart. Child/adult sexual relations are wrong. Children can't consent.
Some Linux nerds: "see, he's changed his mind, he's a different man!"
Maybe I'm overly pessimistic, but to me the timing of his epiphany seems rather convenient.
How ready people are to treat celebrities as deity-like figures is scary to me. Just because Stallman has some great FOSS credentials doesn't mean he can't be a total POS in other areas. People bend over backwards to defend him as some saint who can do no wrong, even to the extent of trivialising child rape. It's scary what a bit of celebrity worship can get people to do.
You mean when he had an epiphany and changed his mind 2 days after his job became under fire?
Gee, I dunno. Maybe because it was a clear last-ditch effort to save his job, rather than because he genuinely went from his decades-held (and publicly-championed) view that sex with children is ok to sex with children is rape, by sheer coincidence, 2 days after people started requesting he step down over Epstein comments?
It was about as convincing a statement from Stallman as when Zuckerberg says he cares about privacy.
Do you genuinely believe him when he says he changed his mind? It's an awfully convenient timing, even you would have to admit.
And can I also ask - are you only looking favourably at him because you like him? If Andrew Tate, just before his court case, came out and said that his views on women are wrong and he doesn't believe that stuff anymore, would you believe him? It seems to me that you're likely sweeping Stallman being pro-childrape under the rug, because he happens to have cool ideals when it comes to software.
Post the link to him saying that having sex with children is okay
It's pretty well-known at this point, I thought? Regardless:
RMS on June 28th, 2003
RMS on June 5th, 2006
RMS on Jan 4th, 2013
You can find these on Stallman's blog, which I believe is Stallman.org iirc. Just go to the dates I provided.
Yeah, necrophilia is fine as long as both parties are consenting.
When one of the parties objects, that is when the fun starts :D
I cannot find any of this on his blog, why didn’t you just link to his blog?
I did link to his blog... It's stallman.org
I said from there you can go to the dates I provided.
I don't wish to be rude, but do you really need this hand-holding? It took me less than 10 seconds to find a specific link to the first quote, for example:
https://stallman.org/archives/2003-mar-jun.html
Did you really look?
Stallman being pro-paedophila is not new information.
You pasted the domain not an actual blog post link. And you’re the one making these claims about him on a forum, does it really surprise you when someone asks for the source? Sorry you had to google something.
Sod off, sealion
I gave a link to the source, his blog, and gave instructions on how to find each statement. I even gave timestamps.
I gave you the source as soon as you asked. The source is Stallman's blog, stallman.org.
Apology accepted, don't worry about it. You just came across as a bit of a sealion, that's all.
Anyway, the point is, yes, Stallman has been a repeated defender of paedophilia and having sex with family pets.
Personally for me that's a mark against him. But that's just my opinion, a lot of people in the Linux don't really mind.
You were the one looking for proof? Then you do the googling.
That is how this shit works, genius.
You've got the burden of proof backwards, pal.
Lucky this isn't a court of law, buddy.
Online discussions aren't formal debates, bud.
This makes no sense. This person made a claim and I asked what the source was. Shouldn’t they know where their own comment came from?
Mike, you came at this person twice. He gave you a url and since you're on Lemmy we assume you're at least halfway internat savvy.
In my shoes I'd have at least put in a few minutes of effort to look for the information on that site. Or even a general search. ANYTHING to evince my capability for critical thought.
You were given 99% more than most are in this type of exchange and still lazily demanded more. You didn't just ask and you weren't all that polite. I found it lazy. That you appear to feel a keen need to have the last word in this type of situation is also worth a bit of reflection.
I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. But I'll take that downvote and no reply as a "yes, you were right. Stallman is a disgusting supporter of child rape and bestiality".
Perhaps you can learn from this. Celebrity worship is bad. It blinds you to the faults of people. Stallman doesn't deserve your simping.
You calmed down? You agree he supports paedophilia, yes? The evidence is right there. I provided sources for you a bunch of times.
who
It's a very searchable name
Too bad he spent all his energy getting Linux users to say GNU/Linux instead of talking about the real issues
Just because that's all you ever listened to doesn't mean that's all he ever said.