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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I may be misunderstanding but why are people saying take down chromium? Please correct me if I'm wrong but chromium is open source and only invested in largely by Google. Chrome is chromium with proprietary code implemented and in no way (as far as I can tell) do they own the chromium project. I quite like chromium just the de-googled version. I think people may be mistaking Chrome and Chromium for being the same or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe someone can explain if I'm missing something

Also I'd love to see the downfall of Google but nothing will change the power they have. The names too recognizable it doesn't matter if given a choice , Grandma or Grandpa or whoever that doesn't care about this sort of thing is picking Google because out of the common options they'll probably only recognize Bing or Google maybe some Yahoo too lol

Edit: I don't understand why I'm being downvoted , I was asking a question and explaining what I understood about the project but that's the internet I suppose haha

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Chromium is open source but not free (as in freedom). In fact, it is developed by Google and only Google has the power to accept or refuse a PR.

As an example: Manifest V2 is going to be discontinued in favor of V3 on Chromium (and consequently Chrome) despite the outrage of the users and developers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I thought it was not a licensing issue but rather that it if someone wanted to maintain the engine with MV2, it would get increasingly hard to do independently because of the sheer complexity.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Yup. Nobody denies you from forking Chromium and maintaining an updated version with MV2, but good luck doing that

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

I don't think anything you said makes it not free, as long as you can fork it. The same can be said about most FOSS, since somebody, usually the creator, is in control of the repository.

That's the point of FOSS - your repository isn't becoming a democracy by virtue of using a permissive license, but it means somebody could outcompete you with a fork and effectively take over as the dominant project.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I think the main problem is that Chromium still contributes towards the browser engine monoculture, as it is bug-for-bug compatible with Chrome. Therefore if you switch to Chromium, it's still enough for the web sites to test for Chrome compatibility, which they will, because it has the largest market share. Users of competing browsers suffer, further driving the lure of Chrome (or Chromium).

On the other hand, if people switched to some other engine, one that does not share the same core engine or even the same history, this will no longer hold: web sites would need to be developed against the spec, or at least against all the browsers they might realistically expect their customers to use.