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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

A big part of communism is about who owns the means of production. One way to alter this aspect of society is through cooperative economics. A state-less form of socialism (edit: democratically controlled) that's already proven effective in small pockets of our own country (assuming US here) and around the world. One common example is Mondragon in Spain, a cooperative business and the seventh largest company in the country, that has proven its even possible for the cooperative model to reach levels of scale capable of competing in a private capitalist world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Cooperatives are cool, but unfortunately Markets lead to class contradictions even with cooperatives in place, which is why the goal still needs to be full Socialism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Cooperatives have different structures to help mitigate class conflicts, but either way the model essentially, or practically, has a baked in, or something akin to a, union by giving members voting rights while not outright excluding the presence of a union.

I don't disagree with having a goal of full socialism. I just see cooperatives as a practical stepping stone in that direction.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They certainly can be a practical stepping stone, and probably will be in some countries, I just wanted to indicate that competing worker coops does not defeat the issues inherent to the profit motive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Ah right. I see. This is why I think we need to couple this with something like the economy for the common good as an alternative to measuring growth of an economy by GDP.