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I'm sure your feelings are more accurate than thousands of thousand security researchers trying to make a name for themselves.
This is more "Alexa is spying on me" ignorance and paranoia.
This entire thread...
Since there are so many security researchers agreeing with you, why didn't you link a few reports to support your claim?
Ahh right, the old disprove god doesn't exist argument. 👌👍
I'm sure Google and Amazon have secret whistleblower tech that has some how kept any evidence of this massive program secretly stealing everyone's data without leaving a trace.
You seemed to claim that there are thousands of security researchers that have found that iOS monitors you more than Android, yet you offer no proof, only a shit attitude.
Sure I made a snarky remark, but my point still stands, you have no links to reports confirming your claim.
I was open to read about this, but your attitude has made me less so.
You've made up arguments and comparisons. Google services monitor you. Android (as stated earlier) or AOSP or even pixel os doesn't. There is a difference. The OS is quite locked down. Nobody is forcing you to use any Google services. I'm sorry you missed that nuance.
Exactly what argument did I make up?
Google is an advertisment company, this is a fact, Apple is a tech company, this is also a fact.
My own feelings are also a fact.
Meh, that's not a great argument to make.
Yes, Google is largely an advertising company. But they're also a tech company.
We can argue that Apple is a tech company first, but it's also an advertising company (they do collect gobs of data about users - which we really don't know much about how they use it).1
I could easily say they're both data collection companies with a massive tech side.
Not sure where I was going with all this, other than this isn't the clearest argument to make. And how you feel about it really isn't useful. I don't like any of them, though I feel worse when using iOS from the lack of transparency and inability to change much of anything. Root actually exists for Android, unlike iOS.
That is a fair take, but looking at it from a general user's perspective, they just want a phone that works, they won't tinker to get it working like they want.
In that regard I find the setup wizard on iOS and Android to have two very different personalities.
iOS guides you step by step, it talks about sharing user data and gives you controls to turn it off right in the wizard.
Last time I set up an Android phone, a Nokia 6.1, running Android One, Android was more of a "don't worry about privacy, just logon and have fun!" personality.
So for normal users, my reaction is that iOS is better.
YOU made the positive claim.
Whatever you say my man.