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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I am quite confused. Can someone please explain why there seems to be hate towards those who like "dark humor"? I can understand that some try to hide behind the name when in reality they just want to bad-mouth minorities or their views, however I don't see a problem with dark humor by itself.

I may be missing something since a lot of the comments and the post itself mentions US politics where there is a lot of tensions.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Dark humor itself isn’t the issue, however a majority of the people who claim they have “dark humor” are actually just massive bigots who don’t want to be called out so they mask their hate as thinly-veiled “jokes”

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I can definitely see that being a thing sadly.

So the post and comments refer to people who act in such a way mixed with the US politics because of how certain people make "jokes" about minorities that are oppressed and might be oppressed further in the worst case scenario, right?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yep. It's been a thing for a long time now, at least since 2001, but "it's just a joke" became a way for bigots to disguise their hatred, and was picked up by "edgy" teenagers in places like 4Chan...which would later reveal as they got older that they were actually just bigots themselves all along or the joking had normalized that mentality in them to the point where they started believing it. It's definitely not just an American thing, but Republicans in the US tend to be extremely sensitive and volatile emotionally (despite calling everybody else "liberal snowflakes" for how easily offended they claim they are) while being very emboldened by the events of the past decade or so to openly spew their hatred and bigotry.

There's a great stand-up bit about it by James Acaster from 2019 called What's Wrong? Too Challenging For You!?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Thanks for the helpful answer. I'll have a look at that stand-up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

"No see the joke is that I unironically believe that you are inferior and should be treated worse than the dog I abuse because of my feelings of inadequacy, based solely on the fact that you are a homosexual" - Worst Sonic Character, Boomer The MAGA Hat

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I would say that's a very small minority, not a majority.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I wouldn't call it a 'very small minority', personally.

Most people who actually have dark humor don't really have to bring it up in conversation that often, because they aren't assholes who use it as an excuse to say slurs and hateful/hurtful things.

The people who are normally quick to let you know that they have dark humor are the ones who use it as an excuse to say a bunch of gamer words, at least from my experience growing up.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s not against dark humor. It’s against what you identified: people hiding behind it or qualifying their bigotry as dark humor when they’re really just assholes.

My humor is dark af and I take no offense because this isn’t about that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I was just confused and not sure wether it was or not. Thanks to the clarifications of you and others I now know.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Edgy humor has a butt to the joke, and/or the joke is made due to someone's misfortune, at their expense. It's inherently problematic in the sense that there's a risk of offense to those who have been victims of similar misfortune. The solution, of course, is to be funny enough that the humor overpowers the offense and/or doesn't focus the humor on being mean to the victims

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Indeed. You can laugh about anything, but not with everyone. At least, that's how I see it.

(Of course laughing here is meant as laughing at a joke and not laughing at the misfortune of others).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Think shitty crybaby "comedians" who say "you can't make a joke anymore" because all their jokes are ~~edgy~~ bigoted garbage