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[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There is absolutely nothing that differentiates valve from the other stores front to justify this.

The "justification" is that Steam is a good storefront and others kind of blows. There's nothing stopping other companies from making good software....they just haven't.

it's clear collusion.

That's not what collusion is.... Steam doesn't sell Nintendo games and is Epic/Microsoft's rival.

Can't wait for all the downvotes and simps coming to defend him

To be clear, I'm not defending billionaires. Your talking points are just kind of baseless.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

I mean they have tried, but than they get in shit for doing something different to get their foot in the door(epics free games). Valves marketing and fan base is top notch and defends them voraciously with their rose coloured glasses.

They have buggy games, they don’t update them, they are currently over run with griefers making some unplayable to any fun degree.

What’s with the passes they keep getting? As you said they get “justification” lmfao, what a fucking joke. Its capitalists defending despite you claiming you aren’t what a joke. Does musk get a pass for his space ventures? No, so why does gaben? Please explain in detail, I would love a legit answer to this.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Because people dont want free games, they want a useful service with features. EGS is a piece of shit that leaks users data often.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

L O L "doing something different"

Epic tried to pull an Amazon.

Get VC money and chinese money and subsidize and undercut competition using anticompetitive practices to gain market share before the rug pull where they jack up their margins to the industry standard. (Everyone uses 30%, even brick and mortars except humble which is 25)

The difference is Amazon actually made a good software experience in the beginning few years and Epic spent literal years with very few feature updates and whining and burning money suing about "unfair market practices" when they were the only ones actually engaging in anti-consumer practices like paying off developers to be Epic-exclusive and buying developers and removing their games from steam. The other "different" thing that they did I guess is their CEO is an outspoken objective asshole.

They never got to the rug pull part because their actual software sucked balls and they refused to improve it so much so that someone else actually made a better launcher than them for their own products...

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Humble’s is 12% and all the others charge 30% because that’s what steam set as an arbitrary standard.

They can all operate with lower, but go off on this conspiracy theory.

See blindly defended, can’t even have a discussion without it being derailed by conspiracy theories. Who’s voting up this bullshit? They tried something different, they get shit on, of course you can find an angle with anything a company does, that shouldn’t stop people from having a discussion. They asked what others tore fronts are doing, b the eh are trying, than people like you come and shit all over them because it’s not immediately identical or better than steam.

We get it, nothing can be better, that doesn’t mean people shouldn’t try and we should shit all over their attempt. Yeah that’ll make them try harder. You’re the reason why they stop trying, because it’s not worth the effort since they know it’ll never meet peoples quite frankly impossible standards.

So can we please have an actual discussion on this topic for a change? Or are fanboys just always going derail actual conversations with their stupid bullshit?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nowhere did I say Gaben gets a pass, I'm saying Steam is a great service.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Nobody shit on epic for giving away free games. You can't just make a completely false statement like that.

People don't like epic because they bought games and made them exclusive to their store.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nobody shit on epic for giving away free games

Uhh go check the internet maybe? Epics gets bashed for everything, including the free games dude lol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Provide one example if it's so ubiquitous. I have been following the EGS discourse for years and never seen anyone complain about the free games.

Maybe complaints about how the games aren't worth it because you have to use EGS, sure. I've made that joke myself. That's a different complaint though.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ah so you’re just a troll. You understand the hate, participate, but claim it isn’t. Thats what racists and other type of people justify their hate.

Blocked.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Well, that sure took a turn I wasn't expecting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

This dude has got to be bipolar or something. Dudes comments go 0-60 faster than a the NASA X-43.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

You mean the part when they realized they were backed into a corner and were about to lose an argument so they tried pulling the escape lever of "Blocked"?