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The music industry has officially declared war on Suno and Udio, two of the most prominent AI music generators. A group of music labels including Universal Music Group, Warner Music Group, and Sony Music Group has filed lawsuits in US federal court on Monday morning alleging copyright infringement on a “massive scale.”

The plaintiffs seek damages up to $150,000 per work infringed. The lawsuit against Suno is filed in Massachusetts, while the case against Udio’s parent company Uncharted Inc. was filed in New York. Suno and Udio did not immediately respond to a request to comment.

“Unlicensed services like Suno and Udio that claim it’s ‘fair’ to copy an artist’s life’s work and exploit it for their own profit without consent or pay set back the promise of genuinely innovative AI for us all,” Recording Industry Association of America chair and CEO Mitch Glazier said in a press release.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Because humans don't also take inspiration from other's work they've heard and unconsciously repeat part of other songs they've heard before, possibly decades ago. Never happens. Never. Humans don't profit from books they've read and apply to their career. Humans don't profit from watching other humans do the thing and then learn to do it themselves.

All AI does is do the same thing but at ridiculous scale and ridiculous speeds. We shouldn't hold progress because capitalism dictates that we shouldn't put people out of jobs. We need to prepare for the future where there is no jobs and AI replaced all of them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

AI isn't "like a person" it doesn't "learn like a person" it doesn't "think like a person" it's nothing like a person. It's a a machine that creates copies of whatever you put into it. It's a machine that a real person, or group of people, own. These people TAKE all the stuff everyone else created and put it into their copy machine.

In fact it's really easy to show that it's a copy machine because the less stuff you put into it the more of a direct copy you get out of it. If you put only one song, or one artist, into it then virtually everything it creates would be direct copyright infringements. If you put all of the worlds music into it the copying becomes more blurred, more complex, more interesting, and therefore more valuable.

Sure AI is a great innovation, but if someone wants to put my work into a copying machine they're going to have to acquire it from me legally.

No one is against AI, we're just against the people who own the AI machines stealing our work without paying for it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Someone posted links to some of the AI generated songs, and they are straight up copying. Blatantly so. If a human made them, they would be sued, too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I think with all the frivolous lawsuits based on music sounding similar in cases like Kate Perry and Ed Sheeran lately, you'd be crazy to release AI generated music right now. Marvin Gaye's estate probably have lawsuits already drafted up.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

This is a shit take

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The copyright infringment machine will obviously serve the people and not the multi-billion dollar corporations \s

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Multi-billion dollar corporations like Universal Music Group, Warner Music Group, and Sony Music Group?

All of music is basically owned by like 4 companies. This is them trying to make sure they own all AI generated music too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

We need to prepare for the future where there is no jobs and AI replaced all of them.

You seem to think that the natural extension of this is that everyone who used to have a job continues to flourish, and doesn't die in the gutter because they have no money/shelter/food.

The naivity would be adorable, if it weren't also extremely dangerous and playing directly into rich assholes' plans to bleed everything dry for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

But a human can synthesize all those works and transform them into something new. All the AI is doing is regurgitating stuff it has heard before. I don't want to try to put a bot on the same level as human creativity.