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This is a very entertaining and educational article, giving insights into the methods used by thiefs to try and get access to your phone data.

I don't like Apple but it's great that their security is so good when it comes to this.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (59 children)

I guess just anecdotally. I have a pixel 7, I'm pretty confident I could factory reset the device without 3rd party authentication. Also, from the tech channels I follow, I think I could recover my data if I forgot the password. Android has always felt more "free"and customizable, and I love it for that. But I also think that freedom allows for more exploits. It's a trade off that's worth it to me, personally. But if I had illegal shit to hide on my phone, I'd probably do it on an apple device.

Edit: just checked. I can completely bypass all my locked down Google Pixel settings to factory reset my phone pretty easily if I press the right keys in the right order. It would be pretty easy to steal and resell my phone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (37 children)

As everyone is pointing out you're just wrong about this.

Also apple is overbearing AF. I recently had several back and forths with my IT department about an old company mac laptop I used to have. Since I had signed into my apple account once, Apple permanently tied that laptop to my account and wouldn't allow the fucking IT department to fully wipe it.

Keep in mind also that I would have preferred to not have or use an apple account (they kind of force it on you, even asking you to login to iCloud constantly even if you've literally never used it once), and even though I could login to the apple account in my browser and see that the laptop wasn't listed under my devices, IT was still locked out.

Literally the only way to fix this was giving the IT dept my apple password so they could authenticate then sign out of it. There was nothing I could do remotely about it. This is a security issue in itself. Zero reason I shouldn't be able to use my account remotely to remove or sign that device out. Zero reason I should have to give my password to another human. Except for apple being shit.

The apple security theater is widely believed but it's still largely theater.

Edit: before you tell me I didn't have to give up my password, understand that I fucking know that. I could've driven to the office, told my employer to fuck off, had them ship the laptop, etc... all of which are things that shouldn't be necessary. I took the least shitty option at the time. Kindly fuck off if you are so dicksloppery on apple that you can't understand the obvious point: pretending every shit decision is about security doesn't shield you from all criticism.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (31 children)

Your post details how it isn’t possible for IT professionals to wipe a Mac without the consent of the owner’s account. How is that security theater?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

IT was the owner and obviously consented to their own actions.

You didn't read the post.

You pretty much MUST use paid mobile device management tools to set up and administer company owned Apple hardware, and those tools are notoriously annoying and often just bad

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

MDM would have been used regardless of OS.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Read again - for most other devices there are cheap and often some free administration tools that small businesses can use. And for many devices they can just reinstall them. But for Apple devices pretty much everything is expensive or very limited.

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