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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Brave Search fully using their own index since April 27, 2023. But they refuse to identify their crawler and rely on googlebot if sites want to be excluded. Also their search API monetization of possible copyrighted content while understandable is a bit doubious due to their public stance on transparency.

StartPage also blocks VPN usage.

DuckDuckGo by their own admission now re-rank "trusted" sites to the top when it comes to what they clasify as"misinformation" so calling their "censorship" mild is huge understatement.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I wanted to search for unverified info or misinfo, I could, but almost always I am lookkng for factual and sourced information. Please don't force me to do otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's more about someone else making the decision on what is "trustworthy" for you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's how all search engines fundamentally work though. The whole point if that they try to bring the most relevant results to the top and downrank things like spam and unhelpful/irrelevant results. Downranking misinfo spam websites isn't "censorship". Not ranking resullts would make search engines completely pointless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd disagree with equating disinfo with spam. Spam seems easier to classify, sites that try to get ahead by having nonsense keywords or whatever and want to sell you something. Dis- or misinfo is trickier, you need to decide what is correct info. Do you understand what I mean?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Absolutely those things are different. But the point of a search engine is to, crudely and algorithmically, sort out both.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

StartPage also blocks VPN usage.

Only accidental I think. They have the option of reporting that you're behind a VPN proxy when it happens.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Didn't have an issue since a year. Think they changed sth (airvpn)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Using mullvad I have to always come back to a specific country that I used a lot couple months ago

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That sounds funny, why do you think that happens?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

dunno, but already changed to another search eng on mobile

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still get it very occasionally with Proton VPN.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me it was way worse a year ago. I would get blocked all the time, now it rarely ever happens.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I do agree, it used to be a lot worse. I switched away from StartPage for a while because it was so frequent.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

StartPage also blocks VPN usage.

Ancedotal but Startpage works perfectly fine with VPN for me. Certainly better than Google, which works but requires a lot of annoying captchas.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I used Startpage for a long time, and I'm perpetually connected to VPN on both my PC and my phone (different nodes at different times)

Never had a problem with my VPN