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[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (9 children)

Hey, my weekly reminder to tell you that I, a Windows 11 user on five computers without any special tweaks, have never seen a single one of those ads people keep talking about on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

The subtitle of the article says it's not available in the US -

PC Manager app is only available in some regions, but could come to the US eventually

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

So you're saying you, a windows 11 user on five computers running Microsoft's default preferred configuration don't receive any nagware notifications for deviating from Microsoft's preferred configuration? Fascinating

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

People have been talking about start menu ads for over a year, never seen one

I don't use Edge, never seen a pop-up asking me to switch

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Big corps love A/B testing, slow rollouts and geo-restricted features. You might be in a different group than people that get all these ads.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Lemmy demographic feels like mostly Linux users.

Lemmy posters are on vegan level of promoting Linux, and sith level of hate on Windows.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Join the dark side! We have penguins!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

We also have dragons and other things too!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

aye, but do you have a way of managing a physical (noy virtual machine) windows computer so it can be used through the linux system without being aware of it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Like RDP? Or are we talking like, some sort of ssh GUI, where you just wanna access the files on the Windows machine? Most file explorers on Linux do that natively. Or are you talking about compatibility with .exe files? If so, there's Wine and Proton, but those could need some configuration.

Unfortunately, if you're managing one computer from another computer, you're going to be aware of it regardless of which OS you decide to use.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I was more thinking of rdp like things like the pi kvm, hopefully there will eventually be lower latency options.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Microsoft always treated linux and foss with such disdain while under Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer. Their current CEO is an outlier, openly embracing and extending foss and linux. After years of abuses from Gates and Ballmer, many people in the linux community won't be so quick to trust them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

For me, as a vegan Linux user, who really doesn't like the concept of the Jedi sect, this sounds like a compliment.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Same? I'm really confused which ads they're taking about

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I just installed Win11 on a work computer last week, and there were at least 3 screens of the installer trying to push o365 or one drive.

Then you have the start menu where if you look for a software, 90% of the menu is an ad trying to push you a software. At the bottom, you have your search results.

And then there is the pop ups on the bottom right of the screen trying to sell you Candy Crush or another bullshit software.

That's awful and I'm glad it wasn't my computer

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

not sure where all those ads are here unless you mean the search queries on the web??

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No one needs search queries from the web in their start menu. If I want to search the web I'll use a web browser.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

it's not the start menu it's specifically when you press the search button and start typing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

When I press the winkey and search (which is the most efficient way to search the start menu) I get web search shit in the results. This is not desirable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are you on an enterprise subscription / office 365 work or school account or something like that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

it's windows 11 home with a 365 family subscription.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I don't have the pc with me anymore, but I will try to find a screenshot that was circulating around with a ton of ads, which was my experience as well.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You must be in the B group or something, do you use a Microsoft account to login with or a local user?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Some with and some without Microsoft account

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I see the same behavior, both as a local user and as a user connected to a cloud account.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Same here. No idea how it works and where those ads are...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I love how the lemmy FoSS Linux hivemind still down votes you to almost oblivion.

They still haven't figured out this isn't reddit. Shouldn't downvote just because you don't agree with something my dudes...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's just a "I disagree" button for most ppl. Also windows do be that bad, you've used it so long you don't notice or know any better.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Replying from Ubuntu (distro of the month for me) though, so I know other. I wouldn't say better, just different

Windows is perfectly fine for day to day use. 80% of my PC use (and probably 99% for like most people I know) is in a browser. The remaining 20% is in video games. My browser works 100% the same in Linux as it does in Windows. Video games overall are easier to use in Windows. (I use Steam (90% fine with Linux) and Gamepass, which does not play well with Linux).

But feel free to continue to complain about windows :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Windows at this point is barely an OS anymore, it's freemium, it exists solely to push ads and their other products. You say it yourself, most people just use the browser, but hey today windows wants you to use edge, onedrive, outlook, the office suite... and they're taking every step to make sure you do. Their unique goal is to lock you into their ecosystem and make more money off you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There not doing a very good job of locking people in tbh. Basically all software runs fine on windows.

Its an absolute non issue to run non MS apps on windows.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They can't be too heavy handed, otherwise they'll end up with another IE lawsuit that fucked them over. Instead what you have is windows slowly creeping up the enshittification, slowly pushing the boundaries of what they're allowed to do, and doing so regionally too, with the EU getting less shit shoveled in.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

If only there was a convenient way to indicate they don't agree with someone's comment/point...maybe the technology doesn't exist

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Just turn off "show scores" in your profile and you'll be happier. It's a meaningless number anyway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

They still haven’t figured out this isn’t reddit. Shouldn’t downvote just because you don’t agree with something my dudes…

Well, that's not a feature of reddit after all. People are the same, no matter where they are.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

this isn’t reddit.

Correct, hence downvoting here is meaningless.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I don't even see downvotes or the downvote button on mine. Which is fine. If I disagree with someone I'll do it via a comment. Downvoting is just lazy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

right? the clickbait is just absurd. and i say this as someone who lived through the whole slashdot "m$" phase where you couldn't blink without seeing an anti microsoft piece on there