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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (4 children)

That's all great, but the real thing that will stop it is economics. We have a PHEV and I calculated it out and we pay $8 per gallon equivalent compared to $5.50 for regular gas. That's a pretty big difference. Right now we ignore the EV part of the vehicle. (Live in California and I pay $0.50/kwh.)

We're planning on getting solar shortly and that may make it feasible, but until then, it's not.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Good God, your utility company isn’t even using lube when they fuck you with a rusty shovel. Without solar, my time off use plan would make it $0.08/kWh. With solar I don’t even bother figuring out what my cost per mile is because it’s irrelevant till I need a fast charger. I don’t even pay $0.50/kWh at a fast charger usually. I’d be going with a full off-grid solar battery system if I were you. Charging my neighbors cars for free before selling a joule back to those assholes

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Yeah what the heck? How does this guy use electric for regular things, let alone a car?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Is electric pricey where you are? It's been a while since I calculated, but last I checked, electric was cheaper in my area than gas for most of the electric vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

50 cents per kWh sounds fucking insane to me. That's like 5-6 times more than I pay in Canada.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I just checked prices in my region. About 0.07 cents per kWh. Without subsidies. Including "Crimea Tax".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A friend was telling me he pays that much in Hawaii, but you'd probably expect as much on an island like that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Yeah for Hawaii that pricing is sort of expected, but for anything mainland that prices is just disgusting

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

It's shockingly high. I live in the SF bay area and I'm a bit pissed off at how bad we're getting screwed.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Where in California are you? Here in SoCal with SCE their PRIME Time Of Use plan is $0.26/kWH from 9PM - 4PM. Totally works for my family since we work from home and drive EVs locally. We also have a 2019 Prius which gets us about 50-55 MPG and 500+ miles on a full tank for longer drives.

Edit: I should add that the standard Time Of Use plan is $0.38/kWH from 9PM - 4PM. Peak hour usage from 4PM - 9PM is somewhere between $0.53 - $0.62/kWh I think.

We mainly charge our car overnight and it works out well for us.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm in the SF bay area.

The off-hours rate for my electricity is $0.04 cheaper than the prime hours rate. It's laughable. $0.51 vs $0.47. Why bother even thinking about it at that pathetic difference? It's certainly not going to change the math much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ouch!! That is brutal. Do you see a lot of EVs on the road there?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

This is the home of Tesla. There are a million EVs here.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What kind of electric mileage do you get? My Bolt gets about 3.5 miles per kilowatt hour, and my electricity costs $0.12 per kWh. I figure a car like that would get about 30MPG if it were an ICE vehicle. To go 30 miles would take about 8.5 kWh, which would cost about a dollar. Yes, your electricity is 4x the price (ouch!) but 8x the gas equivalent?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

We have a Volvo XC90. Much bigger (and probably heavier) than your Bolt. It gets ~26MPG on the gas only mode. It has an 18.8kWh battery and can go ~30 miles on a charge. So again, bigger, heavier, and less efficient. At $0.50 per kWh, it takes ~$9 for 30 miles, and ~$5.5 in gas to go 26 miles.